In terms of a training cycle October 8 isn't really 'coming up very soon'. You can't accurately judge Molly's marathon fitness on October 8 from the Falmouth results.
Only the willfully blind won't accept there is a big difference in running speed between Obiri/Sisson and Seidel. You won't naturally be able to train that gap in 6 weeks, especially since Molly has never run as fast as they have.
Only the willfully blind would think that your post is a logical retort to mine. I didn't express an opinion with respect to Molly's ability to challenge Obiri or Sisson. I only challenged the comment you can't accurately judge Molly's marathon fitness on October 8 from her run this weekend. By the way, October 8 is seven weeks away, not six.
I don't even know why I bother posting on here sometimes....you act as if I'm a N00b runner who isn't aware of how Boston runs.
How many times have you run Falmouth? How many times have you run Boston? What are your times?
If you want to "extrapolate" possible "equivalent" Boston Marathon times from a hilly 7-mile road race like Falmouth then go ahead. All I'm saying is it's probably not going to be very accurate or meaningful.
Respectfully Sage, you post here to gain interest in your YouTube channel. That's at least part of the reason and I would do it too, it's free advertising, take it.
I’m not going to debate you. I’m on the FRR committee.
Great. Post a picture of the Jones numbers. You should have them on a file somewhere. >= 7.05. If you don't know that, you're not the insider you wish you were.
Not surprising, a couple posters here have an irrational hate for Seidel. No matter what she does it will be ripped apart.
Not true. If she wins without a suspect TUE and against a strong field (marathon with the 5 current fastest marathoners in the world) she will be celebrated.
You are incorrect about the measurement of the course, which was redone just a few years ago.
No. It measures long but unlike Manchester they didn't want to certify to the hundredths. It is AT LEAST 7.05. You have no idea how many courses are long but the director wants the start and finish in a certain place.
It's 7.0 miles...maybe 7.005. It would be hard to put the start and finish in the wrong place as there are permanent markings on the road and all the people that run Falmouth every year...and live on the Cape...would know in a second.
Who cares whether it's 7 or 7.05, it is a race from one point to another, it is about running as fast as possible between points. You guys comparing times and courses and making predictions are the reason running is not popular with the masses and even with many runners.
BTW, I have run Falmouth a couple of times, it is not a course I would ever call hilly.
How many times have you run Falmouth? And a road marathon? The year I ran 1:04 for the half and 2:16 for a marathon I ran 34:40 at Falmouth.
I believe the course is not exactly 7.0 miles (it's some odd ball distance actually because it's a "pub to pub" kinda run). That doesn't really matter though as it is also notoriously hot/humid (late morning start) and pretty hilly.
So what I'm saying is it's not even worth trying to "guestimate" an "equivalent marathon time"....especially from shorter race in those conditions that isn't even a standard distance. In that regard the OP's estimations are just bad analysis imo. Just guessing and making up numbers based on what?
I have run Falmouth a handful of times and more sub 2:18 marathons than you too. But I don't look for reasons to boast my PRs. You should probably list that your 2:16 is actually 2:16:52 btw
Clearly you have run 2:17 multiple times but not under 2:16:52 since you aren’t bragging about having a faster PR :)
Yes, many people run for exercise, but not so many are interested in following the sport or spectating. Part of the reason is guys like you, not to mention it is kinda boring to watch.
Not surprising, a couple posters here have an irrational hate for Seidel. No matter what she does it will be ripped apart.
Not true. If she wins without a suspect TUE and against a strong field (marathon with the 5 current fastest marathoners in the world) she will be celebrated.
No. The discussion will just pivot to doping and how she can’t be that good. Or if it wasn’t in world record time that it was a fluke and too slow. Or if it was WR time that she isn’t the goat. There is no scenario where you celebrate her. This is just reality.
Given Seidel’s other legitimate recent races, I think this is her best result in a while. Hoping things are starting to click for her as Chicago approaches. I don’t really see her excelling exceptionally well on a fast, flat course like Chicago as she seems to be a gritty racer who uses tough conditions to her advantage, but it’s an opportunity for her to run a PB, which is still about 6 minutes slower than Sisson is aiming for.
That is pretty much exactly what Molly said about the race. She loved getting back on the road and was actually very happy with her time and place. She felt it showed she is making good progress and looking forward to jumping right back into her marathon training.
No. It measures long but unlike Manchester they didn't want to certify to the hundredths. It is AT LEAST 7.05. You have no idea how many courses are long but the director wants the start and finish in a certain place.
It's 7.0 miles...maybe 7.005. It would be hard to put the start and finish in the wrong place as there are permanent markings on the road and all the people that run Falmouth every year...and live on the Cape...would know in a second.
That’s not the Jones numbers. I’ve already addressed a certifier is happy to certify “at least” in fact it’s done a majority of the time in two cases 1) start finish same place 2) course is older than certification
Not surprising, a couple posters here have an irrational hate for Seidel. No matter what she does it will be ripped apart.
They don’t like Dr Anthony Fauci, and they don’t like Bud Light. They hate women and minorities and trans in leadership positions. They buy sh*tcoins and fall for get rich quick schemes
Molly Seidel actually ran the Falmouth Road Race 7 Miles for the elites this morning with bib F16. She wasn't even listed in the press releases from last week announcing the elite start list so she must have gotten special treatment from the race organizers to start. She finished 8th women with a time of 36:44 for the 7 miles which would translate into a 2:28:56 marathon.
Hellen Obiri won the elite 7 miles for the women in a time of 35:13, which is the equivalent of a 2:22:47 marathon.
I think this result from Molly is only meh. Her target of the Chicago Marathon is coming up very soon on October 8th. She will be able to finish but won't trouble the women at the front.
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