New Gen - growing the sport or leaching off it??

Maybe it's the way you said it. Suburban white kids used to be more weary of copying black vernacular so much. It's pretty well documented how now they think it's just Gen Z/internet lingo, but nope, it's black language and privileged white kids using it is pretty cringe.

I watched one or two New Gen videos and they were chalk full of cringe crap like that. No cap, you sound like you're straight outta one of their vids.

Sorry, dude, but racial gatekeeping the English language not a good look on you. Moreover, just change a few words around and this complaint could've been made over a hundred years ago, talk about a lost cause.

I think it's an important distinction that Ben C was not the one who was cited as doing this in the blog post. It in no way excuses him from responsibility, however, as he is basically the face of the camp...

I'm not gatekeeping, it's not my culture nor do I have a stake in it. I was responding to that poster with my opinion that the slang (cap) that preceded his factual statement was cringe and possibly the reason why it was downvoted. It was "extra" if you will.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they are black and I'm really wrong. Maybe I'm right and some young people make themselves look foolish from time to time. I don't care.

The biggest problem with new gen is Ben Crawford. I listened to him on Citius Podcast and it was total trash. He pretty much spewed verbal diarrhea for an hour using all this newspeak about social media and marketing. It's pretty clear that all the toxic nonsense they're publishing is his ideas and no one elses.

This.

They're not doing anything new with their YouTube stuff. We've had pros/teams putting out workout videos forever. We have podcasts. We have websites. They think they're changing the game by being edgy but it just comes across as creepy.

Ah good catch I didn’t know that. It’s hard to keep track of which counselor did what honestly. There’s so much creepy stuff that’s come out about New Gen recently

Just think it’s important to leave the New Gen deleted apology here….

Still waiting on accountability from Ben Crawford, Matt Wisner and Emma Abrahamson

Bro stop with all the burner posts defending your boys, you have a season to prepare for at UO!

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Careful with the anonymous defense of yourself there Ben. The Brojos aren’t afraid to dox people.

“Adults” orrr people who care way too much about something that doesn’t matter at the end of the day? People just want to find something to complain about to compensate for being mediocre at things they want to be better at? The term adults is used as a way to talk about maturity when in reality, most adults aren’t mature. They just use power moves and cry as a way to try to assert dominance.

Also- I can tell you’re far from mature, because 99% of statistics are made up and don’t reflect reality. That statistic was also made up, and so was yours. You just used that number as a way to try to assert dominance by crying about something relating to “behavior”, even though your behavior of posting anonymously on a message board is in fact a reflection of how you waste time and cry over meaningless things.

People only give grace when they get what they want, because people are way too stubborn and egotistical- this message board reeks of it and it’s hilarious watching how people continue to cry over something so stupid! FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS AMIRITE!!!!

This whole topic reeks of entitlement, helicopter parent methods, Karen’s, and unhappy under achievers on the track.

Also- my paycheck is totally calling- you nailed that username. I work in a 1099 so I gotta go back to hearing a bunch of giga chads lecture us about using anxiety as a positive way to go do what we need to do to hit quotas.

I’m gonna be honest, Ben is probably already banned on here, if he still goes on here after this whole thing blew out of proportion.

I honestly am not a huge fan of new gen, during Covid I thought the videos were annoying, especially with evert. But that doesn’t give me the right to bash them anonymously like all these cowards here.

Good luck “growing the sport” by asking the tough question like “gay son or thot daughter?” or “what race would you eliminate?”.

Thanks- I’ll joke about this on cod with the boys because I don’t even associate myself with new gen and don’t even like them- I’m just not a coward who bashes them, again like you. Loser. Have fun being mediocre, “wannabe”.

Ah, the classic “you old farts don’t get it” post. Allow me to retort.

It’s not that we don’t “get” New Gen. It’s that New Gen had a single legitimate innovation in the social-media space — and has kind of royally pooched it ever since.

New Generation Track & Field deserves credit for precisely one thing three years ago: When Ben Crawford “blew up” three years ago with his Boulder training videos, he did in fact help pioneer a fresh new way to do running social content. Personality-focused, documentarian, irreverent, informed by reality TV and influencers in other fields. It was undeniably influential — “brand-building” channels like Lex and Leo Youngs’ absolutely owe something to what New Gen was doing in 2020. That said, you could argue Crawford wasn’t arriving at this conclusion alone: Tinman Elite and a few other creators were trying variations on the same approach. Still. It was a moment.

Since then? New Gen has blown their lead. Spectacularly.

• Their 2020 video style is now widely aped and they’ve failed to innovate.

• Finally, New Gen defines itself as a “media brand” with revolutionary ideas for “growing the sport.” But their ideas — merch drops, social media posts, a magazine, photo shoots, “collabs” with actual brands, a mediocre running team — are … everyone else’s ideas, done worse?

The New Gen pranksters have historically flipped Tinman Elite a ton of crap, but when you drill down to what they’ve actually done, they’re basically Tinman Elite with worse manners and no training regimen.

To be charitable, I get that New Gen was started by college kids who enjoyed a sudden rush of attention. Adapting to adulthood is tough. So is trying to stay relevant after you’ve developed a youthful reputation for “no boundaries” edgelord antics. But guys — guys — it’s time to step back and re-assess.

A coward who simps for them is worse

The New Gen kids give me so much second hand embarrassment

Some goes for that Toad guy. Gives me weirdo vibes. Hard to support him when he posts about partying too much and then hangs with high school kids.