Donald J. Trump is going to be found guilty and he is going to go to prison. He will not win the 2024 election. He will not be pardoned. If you don’t believe this is the case, you are not living in reality.
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the good news is that I only trail Pence by 3 points in the poll, and Christie only a point up. its amazing what money can get you, but they will run out soon and i can make my move
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reallybroreally wrote:
This is the important one wrote:
1. Conspiracy to defraud the United States
2. Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding
3. Obstruction or attempt to obstruct an official proceeding
4. Conspiracy against rights
Jonathan Turley says Smith is stretching the law as he has been prone to do in the past.
Turley should read the Indictment. In particular, the paragraphs related to fake electors.
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Who cares yYYouo wrote:
I read it and he didn’t do anything illegal. Unethical? Yes, but illegal? No.
What we’re seeing is political war games. Have the Biden’s used politics to acquire their wealth? Yes.
Did Trump cry like a baby and falsely claim cheater cheater? Yes.
The thing our nation has a drug problem, alcohol problem, and abuse problem. But we’re being distracted by theses old man politicians and their political war games.
You're in the basket too. You didn't read a damn thing . And yeah, it's illegal to try and stop the winning candidate from getting the Presidency.
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jonesy22 wrote:
The DOJ is an embarrassment, nothing but a political prosecution. Now we prosecute political opponents when there are no crimes. Dems, you need to just beat him at the pools. Instead you are unifying the Republicans to elect Trump.
The crimes are alleged in great detail in the Indictment (which you have not read).
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indeed. stand up to communism. the golden rule of our country. if people carrying flags waved into the Peoples House are a threat to you, then you are living in the wrong place. go home.
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backward* wrote:
I thought the official talking point was that Trump was leading an insurrection. Why isn't he charged with insurrection?
This is the best that they can do? That he obstructed an official proceeding?
Whatever the "official talking point" even means, you are wrong about it. Trump was not charged under the same federal statutes as the January 6 Capitol rioters because he didn't enter the Capitol.
But what he was charged with was Conspiracy To Defraud the United States. That Count is supported by 116 paragraphs of factual allegations.
Try reading the indictment, Carmine.
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Trump lives in a unique world where truth means absolutely nothing whatsoever to him. He surrounds himself with lies and they flow from his mouth like carbon dioxide.
If you read the indictment, you will be floored by the many times his own people tried desperately and repeatedly to tell him the truth and then within an hour he would repeat the lies that he knows are lies. All of his people were tellingly him he was believing lies but nothing would stop him to his own demise. Think of all the lives he destroyed with his lies!
I don’t think another human being in history has been such a chronic liar. Honestly
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Hahahahahahahahaha. This is your guy.
You totally didn’t fall for “drain the swamp”.
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Read the indictment wrote:
Trump lives in a unique world where truth means absolutely nothing whatsoever to him. He surrounds himself with lies and they flow from his mouth like carbon dioxide.
If you read the indictment, you will be floored by the many times his own people tried desperately and repeatedly to tell him the truth and then within an hour he would repeat the lies that he knows are lies. All of his people were tellingly him he was believing lies but nothing would stop him to his own demise. Think of all the lives he destroyed with his lies!
I don’t think another human being in history has been such a chronic liar. Honestly
for real, why would you waste your time reading a narrative by a prosecutor long suffering from trump derangement? that means nothing. this is personal now. its an attempt at a political lynching by scumbags who are throwing a temper tantrum thats delivering communism
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Read the indictment wrote:
Trump lives in a unique world where truth means absolutely nothing whatsoever to him. He surrounds himself with lies and they flow from his mouth like carbon dioxide.
If you read the indictment, you will be floored by the many times his own people tried desperately and repeatedly to tell him the truth and then within an hour he would repeat the lies that he knows are lies. All of his people were tellingly him he was believing lies but nothing would stop him to his own demise. Think of all the lives he destroyed with his lies!
I don’t think another human being in history has been such a chronic liar. Honestly
THIS. Think of all the hundreds of people who participated in Jan 6, many of them working class people who are now saddled with expensive legal bills, jail and a record that will impair their future. All because they disabled critical thinking skills, fell for the lie, thought they'd be handed participated trophies for their actions and must now face reality.
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JustSayinIt wrote:
Read the indictment wrote:
Trump lives in a unique world where truth means absolutely nothing whatsoever to him. He surrounds himself with lies and they flow from his mouth like carbon dioxide.
If you read the indictment, you will be floored by the many times his own people tried desperately and repeatedly to tell him the truth and then within an hour he would repeat the lies that he knows are lies. All of his people were tellingly him he was believing lies but nothing would stop him to his own demise. Think of all the lives he destroyed with his lies!
I don’t think another human being in history has been such a chronic liar. Honestly
THIS. Think of all the hundreds of people who participated in Jan 6, many of them working class people who are now saddled with expensive legal bills, jail and a record that will impair their future. All because they disabled critical thinking skills, fell for the lie, thought they'd be handed participated trophies for their actions and must now face reality.
dont forget their supposed weapon of choice was a flag.
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Noyankee wrote:
Read the indictment wrote:
Trump lives in a unique world where truth means absolutely nothing whatsoever to him. He surrounds himself with lies and they flow from his mouth like carbon dioxide.
If you read the indictment, you will be floored by the many times his own people tried desperately and repeatedly to tell him the truth and then within an hour he would repeat the lies that he knows are lies. All of his people were tellingly him he was believing lies but nothing would stop him to his own demise. Think of all the lives he destroyed with his lies!
I don’t think another human being in history has been such a chronic liar. Honestly
for real, why would you waste your time reading a narrative by a prosecutor long suffering from trump derangement? that means nothing. this is personal now. its an attempt at a political lynching by scumbags who are throwing a temper tantrum thats delivering communism
You could read it to see what's in it, understand it, and be better able to argue that Trump is innocent and the charges are bogus.
It won't take much time. Took me 30 minutes, but I was reading it carefully and cross-checking facts. I bet you could read it in 15minutes. If you don't read it at all, you're just like some kid on a playground sticking his fingers in his ears saying "nanananananana"
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Noyankee wrote:
Read the indictment wrote:
Trump lives in a unique world where truth means absolutely nothing whatsoever to him. He surrounds himself with lies and they flow from his mouth like carbon dioxide.
If you read the indictment, you will be floored by the many times his own people tried desperately and repeatedly to tell him the truth and then within an hour he would repeat the lies that he knows are lies. All of his people were tellingly him he was believing lies but nothing would stop him to his own demise. Think of all the lives he destroyed with his lies!
I don’t think another human being in history has been such a chronic liar. Honestly
for real, why would you waste your time reading a narrative by a prosecutor long suffering from trump derangement? that means nothing. this is personal now. its an attempt at a political lynching by scumbags who are throwing a temper tantrum thats delivering communism
You sir are in a cult. No offense. But you really should deal with it. Get it taken care of. It is not a Republican vs Democrat thing. You are fully invested in Donald Trump and defending him. Anyone with a rational brain can know who Trump is. Only a cultist would try to spin it as something else.
of all the people to cult out to, why Donald Trump? Seriously. Was it the way he spoke to you? Did you think he was a super duper businessman?
What was it that got you hooked as a red cap guy?
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ih8fetterman wrote:
Congrats…. You’re supporting a man who barged in on teen girls changing clothes at his own sponsored pageant. Also an Epstein’s Isle visitor.
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Read the indictment wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
for real, why would you waste your time reading a narrative by a prosecutor long suffering from trump derangement? that means nothing. this is personal now. its an attempt at a political lynching by scumbags who are throwing a temper tantrum thats delivering communism
You sir are in a cult. No offense. But you really should deal with it. Get it taken care of. It is not a Republican vs Democrat thing. You are fully invested in Donald Trump and defending him. Anyone with a rational brain can know who Trump is. Only a cultist would try to spin it as something else.
of all the people to cult out to, why Donald Trump? Seriously. Was it the way he spoke to you? Did you think he was a super duper businessman?
What was it that got you hooked as a red cap guy?
I think he's actually just a troll whose only goal is to inflame left leaning posters to waste their time responding to him/her. I blocked that user.
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Well, I hope that at least John Eastman (Co-Conspirator 2) and Kenneth Chesebro (Co-Conspirator 5) get Indicted as well. Those guys are a disgrace to the legal profession. Total fraudsters. Hard to understand why they threw their careers and reputations away for this cause. Crazy.
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JustSayinIt wrote:
Read the indictment wrote:
Trump lives in a unique world where truth means absolutely nothing whatsoever to him. He surrounds himself with lies and they flow from his mouth like carbon dioxide.
If you read the indictment, you will be floored by the many times his own people tried desperately and repeatedly to tell him the truth and then within an hour he would repeat the lies that he knows are lies. All of his people were tellingly him he was believing lies but nothing would stop him to his own demise. Think of all the lives he destroyed with his lies!
I don’t think another human being in history has been such a chronic liar. Honestly
THIS. Think of all the hundreds of people who participated in Jan 6, many of them working class people who are now saddled with expensive legal bills, jail and a record that will impair their future. All because they disabled critical thinking skills, fell for the lie, thought they'd be handed participated trophies for their actions and must now face reality.
I am very thankful that all the people that ruined their lives for Trump and his lies did not walk the plank alone while Trump laughed his Azz off. Even though many still support Trump I am thankful that Justice was meted out to the chief agent and cause of their suffering.
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Commode flusher wrote:
Well, I hope that at least John Eastman (Co-Conspirator 2) and Kenneth Chesebro (Co-Conspirator 5) get Indicted as well. Those guys are a disgrace to the legal profession. Total fraudsters. Hard to understand why they threw their careers and reputations away for this cause. Crazy.
Do you think Smith is bringing a narrow indictment for a faster trial and also to tell a simpler story to the jury for an easier conviction?
Or maybe they all have deals and have talked. And they got the mob boss. So why worry about the coconspirators?
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