Physiology. simple as that. Some runners are born with fast twitch muscles. I myself was not a fast twitch athlete. Ran 4.11 for the mile and 13:39 for 5K. people are different.
Shelby was supposedly doped when she ran 14:23, but a 14:19 out of monsoon is clean? Even more so- the 3rd AR for monson this year?
and people speculate that Shelby was doped because she improved from 15:30ish in college to 14:23 in 4-5ish years as a pro, but yet monson can go from similar starting times to 14:19 in only 3 years as a pro, but there’s no speculation?? ?
People speculate that Shelby was doped because she tested positive.
Shelby was supposedly doped when she ran 14:23, but a 14:19 out of monsoon is clean? Even more so- the 3rd AR for monson this year?
and people speculate that Shelby was doped because she improved from 15:30ish in college to 14:23 in 4-5ish years as a pro, but yet monson can go from similar starting times to 14:19 in only 3 years as a pro, but there’s no speculation?? ?
She got hammered in the race. Clearly what she ran is not spectacular. This event in the USA is soft. A lot of average performers who have a ways to go to be competitive on the world stage.
As for Shelby. She didn't get popped for running fast, she got popped for doping.
There was a guy named John Castellano who ran an 8:20 3000m when he was 17 and several weeks later ran 13:51 for 5000m. Rather than try to figure out how he was capable of running pretty much the same pace for both distances, I just assumed that he was probably capable of running much faster for the 3000m. Possibly he had trained hard through the 3000m and was in peak condition for the 5000m. It is very likely that Monson could have run faster than 8:25 today.
There was a guy named John Castellano who ran an 8:20 3000m when he was 17 and several weeks later ran 13:51 for 5000m. Rather than try to figure out how he was capable of running pretty much the same pace for both distances, I just assumed that he was probably capable of running much faster for the 3000m. Possibly he had trained hard through the 3000m and was in peak condition for the 5000m. It is very likely that Monson could have run faster than 8:25 today.
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Sometimes I wonder if the people on this board were ever runners themselves. There are very few people out there whose PRs perfectly convert to each other. Everyone has good days and bad days, and often you’re just a better runner one week, one month, or one year later. The same is true for professionals.
Physiology. simple as that. Some runners are born with fast twitch muscles. I myself was not a fast twitch athlete. Ran 4.11 for the mile and 13:39 for 5K. people are different.
That's incredible. A guy worth 4.11 for the mile (3:53/1500) should be no faster than 14:00 for the 5000. Kudos - incredible you ran that fast for 5000 which translates to a 28:20/10,000 and 2:10:00 marathon, or faster.
OP -- an 8:10 3k is worth ~14:10 5k. Sounds like you just needed some more miles/strength work or you never got into the right race with good weather. 8:25 is worth 14:30s so Monson clearly has amazing strength. She must be crushing every threshold/tempo session. It's not uncommon to see good 5k/10k runners fit into a similar pattern. A lot of these 3:30 1500 types aren't running 12:40-12:50 for 5k. & most of the 12:40-12:50 guys can't run that fast at 1500.
I know a purely 3k specialist who ran 4:30, low 8:30s, and 15:20s. But then he ran a 4:10, 8:10 and 14:20 a year later so it was just bad races in abysmal conditions.
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