600yd/600m man wrote:
I don't know why you clowns brought C S into a 400m & 800mw.r. discussion.
What a clown. Can you read PBs?
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wulfy wrote:
That she passed 14 tests that season?
Not 14 but she was tested negative for doping 19 times between 12 April and 24 November 2019.
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You of all people should know bouncy doesn't help a sprint.
It doesn't help anything really, but especially not a sprint!10 -
This is a general comment but they can only have ADAMs in so many languages, there is no way they can cover everyone. If you try to read, navigate and fill in the Arabic version that is similar to someone (well kind of but not really) trying to fill it in with English as a second language but say a Bantu language as their first. In fact I would argue that it is easier to do it in Arabic with your first language as English than the other scenario due to various things plus resources online.
Again, I think she uses PEDs but I think there are big issues with the system. I also don't think her English is very good from the samples we have of her emails.
I don't normally like the Wiki articles on languages but this demonstrates the sheer variety:
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osm wrote:
It's possible that Sydney could break the 400 record in the next few years. Juiced or not, we've simply never seen a talent like her before.
There have been other runners as talented a Sydney, they just never ran the 400h.
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Huangdi wrote:
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mboma: obviously not allowed to run but i just want to point out that she would be under 47.5 by now if she still ran the 400
Sorry, but a biological male running 47.5 is NOT special.
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Athing hasn't even stepped on the track this year year and people have been up in every thread assuming she's started doping. Regardless of Kersee's rep, isn't that a bit unfair to her?
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600yd/600m man wrote:
No, C S was banned from competition in C S' three best events: 400m, 800m & 1500m.
Caster Semenya is now banned in ALL female events.
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Mu and Keely both got slower last year after the hype of 21. So far this indoor season Keely is essentially posting the same times as she did last indoor season. So lets see either of them even get back to low 1.55s first. Some of us predicted Mu would peak at a very young age, partly due to her having already raced since she was 10 yo. I don't see any of the current crop breaking the WR. Sorry but this board talks about 'talent' way too much.
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Can We Relax? wrote:
Athing hasn't even stepped on the track this year year and people have been up in every thread assuming she's started doping.
Not doping, modeling. And when you see Athing Mu run not very fast this year everyone will know she's not doping.
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Can We Relax? wrote:
Athing hasn't even stepped on the track this year year and people have been up in every thread assuming she's started doping. Regardless of Kersee's rep, isn't that a bit unfair to her?
no need to dope if you’re not racing anymore. She’s done. And so is her “modeling” career
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For someone who likes to point out when people are doping, your "perhaps Naser" is truly bizarre. So you basically want to see a doped mark be broken by a doper. What's the point to this?
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Armstronglivs wrote:
wulfy wrote:
She wasn't banned for doping, she was banned for whereabouts failures. I don't know whether she was doping or not but I will say that it is a nightmare to fill in that form if you are not comfortable with the language.
As far as I remember one of the failures was due to a flight being rescheduled and she texted her agent to update ADAMS and he did not update ADAMS. The other involved the testers repeatedly knocking on the wrong door at her apartment complex. The arbitration process is on the World Athletics site or somewhere similar. I don't know if she is doping or not. She may well use PEDs .
There is no accident to three whereabouts failures. No "excuses" were accepted. It is a doper avoiding testers - which is why it is treated as a doping violation. Sure, she doped.
To the darn gills. Pretending to believe otherwise is incredibly silly.
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47.6 is fast, and i am not sure any female will get that time soon. Hope I am wrong, but all I am interested in seeing is best runners race each other, especially when it counts.
A champion is each era is a champion, and there are too many factors to make accurate comparisons between times and eras beyond having an interesting discussion.
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Remilekun31 wrote:
People can argue with their keyboards all day. But the only people that have shown, that they can legitimately challenge the world record are Salwa Eid Naser and Shaunae Miller Uibo. No one cares about what ifs unless, you've actually run times, that can make you a legitimate threat to a record.
There's also Mboma of course, but she's DSD
A clean Naser cannot challenge the WR. No one clean can challenge that record.
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Huangdi wrote:
in all honestly i don’t think anyone will ever break either record. i think sub 1:54 will happen in the next 5 years and sub 48 will happen in the next decade but they will never be broken unless a talent unlike any other arises.
let’s go down the list.
mu: i think she will run 1:53 one day but she doesn’t strike me as the kind of runner to have sub 48 wheels. 48 low at the peak of her career.
sml: very low 48s. i think she will break the AR this year.
wilson: incredible talent. quite frankly i think she has the talent to go under 48 one day. i mean, look at her progression for goodness sakes. 52.05 in high school -> 52ish at tennessee -> 50.05 at arkansas -> 49.13 at arkansas. that’s 3 seconds in 4 years. how much lower can she go in the next 10?
mboma: obviously not allowed to run but i just want to point out that she would be under 47.5 by now if she still ran the 400, and probably would have broken 21 at some point in her career if WA didn’t put those new rules out this year.
Agree fully with your Mboma assumptions. I was expecting a sub 21 this year before the WA announced restrictions
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Prescart wrote:
What’s your opinion on 1992 Olympic 800m champion Ellen van Langen?
Could she have run 1.54 if she had not been injured all the time?
She had a beautiful open stride.
Ellen van Langen - that's a great name from the past and a total breath of fresh air in that era of 800m running. So she ran 1.55.54 in Barca but never broke 1.57 outside of that 92 season - and yes, definitely struggled with injuries. Here is the question though - were the injuries a by-product of the training she needed to do to get to a once in a lifetime 1.55 performance and win the Olympics and was she just fortunate to hold it together for that 92 season? Who knows but I don't think it's implausible to say she could have potentially run in the high 1.54's had she been able to build more sustainably to that level.
Can't also discount the possibility of "other things" especially in this era though right?
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No female athlete, not even dsd ones come close to being as muscled as
Kratochvílová. Heck, not even most male athlete. The only male athlete that's as muscled as Kratochilova is Omanyala of Kenya and that now retired British athlete that should have gone into bodybuilding instead.00 -
Think Again wrote:
600yd/600m man wrote:
No, C S was banned from competition in C S' three best events: 400m, 800m & 1500m.
Caster Semenya is now banned in ALL female events.
Again, why did you clowns bring C S up? You gals & guys with your fetishes. C S wasn't thinking about you, but you are thinking about C S.
One of you C S fanatics on this thread, probably Robert Johnson. Robert Johnson has started a lot of C S threads.
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