Indeed the signs were there you are right.You can almost always tell.There are two I am keeping an eye on at the moment. They are high profile too, 1 woman very high profile and a male not as high but up there too.They tend to have lots of suspicious injury breaks disappear for awhile then come back perform well in few races then disappear again.WADA Is doing a great job on the ground using intelligence led burst up testings. They are a few more coming up soon.
I have heard rumblings of the same. It’s quite a sad state of affairs in athletics.
His team is standing by him. Must say I'm very encouraged. When your team, coach and teammates show this kind of belief it 1) absolves them from complicity, IMHO and 2) indicates there's chance (however small) for a plausible explanation.
I'll wait for the process to play out.
His team shares some of the prize money from him and take the same thing he does. When everyone’s livelihoods and quality of life are at stake, they will stand by each other.
He’s not a titan. Someone like Cheptegei or Kiplimo would be. No world titles, a decent bronze and 10k WR wouldn’t put him in that tier
2x WR's in his career so far Current 10KM World Record Holder World Champs 10,000m Bronze (sub27 in the Doha heat, within 2s of Gold) U20 World 10,000m Champion 6th at Snr World XC Diamond League 10,000 Winner Has run 26:46, 26:43, 26:24 on the road
The lance comparison was stupid because he was the very pinnacle of the sport, like a Lebron or Eliud or Ronaldo/Messi etc, but you cannot say that if this is upheld, that this wasn't a titan of the sport. He may not have been the number 1, but anytime he was entered into a race it changed the dynamic, and he has been one of the top 5 distance athletes active right now.
The denial is part of the problem.WADA takes a lot of precautions before they release the news. The motive is clear his career had been derailed for a long time by injuries and he fell into temptation looking for a quick fix to get back up there where he was before. Of course it's also true that there are cases of blackmail and sabotage happening currently over there. But it is up to him to show why he isn't culpable. Personally, I think it's a done deal. You just need to see the behavior pattern and you will see the similarities with these doppers just before they are caught. Another 3 coming up shortly.
This is arguably the best defence of a provisionally suspended athlete I’ve seen. Many valid points and no ludicrous or outlandish claims as is often the case. Nothing to mock. I say give his team the information they’re requesting and let the process play out. I’m rooting for him.
Can you write this again in something closer to intelligible English? I'm a bit slow.
Have you considered that English is not his first language? It is the case for many of us here.
It is for Birko.
sir lecompte, that was difficult to understand because Birko starts foaming at the mouth whenever he accuses Cole Hocker of doping. All those saliva droplets interfere with his phone's screen touch sensitivity, mixing words up.
This is arguably the best defence of a provisionally suspended athlete I’ve seen. Many valid points and no ludicrous or outlandish claims as is often the case. Nothing to mock. I say give his team the information they’re requesting and let the process play out. I’m rooting for him.
You are an absolute clown. Will go to the most insane lengths to defend these Kenyan dopers. That statement is no different than the BS Shelby was pulling trying to sow doubt about the testing process. Good riddance to these cheaters.
Shelby posited she got it from a pork offal burrito that was supposed to be steak and that it was so greasy she didn’t finish. Yet it had enough nandrolone to get her busted. It’s questionable if the food truck had any meat that would do this, based on the meat supply.
Kipruto is saying after COVID he stopped training and started drinking resulting in his values getting out of whack. There’s no substance that was ever detected in his system. Let’s see the process play out, but they are two very difference scenarios.
The denial is part of the problem.WADA takes a lot of precautions before they release the news. The motive is clear his career had been derailed for a long time by injuries and he fell into temptation looking for a quick fix to get back up there where he was before. Of course it's also true that there are cases of blackmail and sabotage happening currently over there. But it is up to him to show why he isn't culpable. Personally, I think it's a done deal. You just need to see the behavior pattern and you will see the similarities with these doppers just before they are caught. Another 3 coming up shortly.
Three?! Not on the same level surely?
As for Kipruto, dunno, the fact that he indulged in alcohol is not a very good sign that he can resist temptation...
This is arguably the best defence of a provisionally suspended athlete I’ve seen. Many valid points and no ludicrous or outlandish claims as is often the case. Nothing to mock. I say give his team the information they’re requesting and let the process play out. I’m rooting for him.
You are an absolute clown. Will go to the most insane lengths to defend these Kenyan dopers. That statement is no different than the BS Shelby was pulling trying to sow doubt about the testing process. Good riddance to these cheaters.
I’m hoping he’s innocent is what I’m saying. And I’m glad his team’s response isn’t the usual laughable nonsense we’re used to. And, yes. I’m biased. I like Rhonex.
The denial is part of the problem.WADA takes a lot of precautions before they release the news. The motive is clear his career had been derailed for a long time by injuries and he fell into temptation looking for a quick fix to get back up there where he was before. Of course it's also true that there are cases of blackmail and sabotage happening currently over there. But it is up to him to show why he isn't culpable. Personally, I think it's a done deal. You just need to see the behavior pattern and you will see the similarities with these doppers just before they are caught. Another 3 coming up shortly.
Yeah, I’m sure he only started doping *after* he ran a 26:24 road 10k 😏
It was graduation weekend for a bunch of universities in Nairobi. I believe him.
This was one of the whereabouts. What about the other 2?
Delayed flight from Germany confirmed by the airline. He’d stupidly delegated his ADAMS logs to a club staff member and that’s on him. He had time for his IG, nonetheless.
I am sad every time I see someone implicated in drug testing. Everyone on here assumes that these tests are accurate, but we actually have no idea how accurate these tests are (and remember the Peter Bol fiasco).
I have very little faith in AIU/WADA as scientific organizations. Detecting outliers from the Biological Passport is a difficult scientific problem. In general the drug testing approaches lack transparency, and that's especially true for APB. Furthermore most tests are poorly supported by published research.
Muller's Ratchet02/19/2023 1:17pm EST3 years ago
TL;DR: The international drug testing agencies lack scientific transparency. Most of us probably assume that drug testing is reliable, but in fact there is very little public information to know how accurate these tests actua...
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