Sprint Geezer you love to troll and act an expert. But you are clueless and are actually quite ignorant of elite sprinting! If you read the full Bailey WADA report you would know he made the mistake of taking a PRACTICE LEGAL stimulant in PRACTICE during bobsled from a teammate who never received any education on drug testing or avoiding OTC stimulants. Bailey admitted he took it as did the 2 other teammates who took it and tested positive for same thing. It was effectively an all-comers meet for bobsled but because there is a testing lab there in Park City they tested 2 days after Bailey practiced and Bailey was added last minute to compete before he was to fly out to Europe to compete in bobsled. There was no financial benefit to his taking the stimulant but he had left his pre-workout energy drink at home and took it for some energy in the early morning training session for some energy.
The real question to ask is why does WADA allow this loophole of legal in practice and not in competition? How many athletes have used this stimulant in a meet where they know they are not being tested and run a fast time or jumped far or high? This mark ups their profile and perhaps enhances the ability to get or increase a contract and defraud others who are not using practice legal supplements in non-tested meets.
Spring Geezer you are always attacking sprint form of certain athletes. What technical flaw does MBP have that is so bad that you feel compelled to trash her? Her front-side is very efficient. Her backside mechanics are solid but will improve with her overall development in the weight room. How do you know she will go to a college that has to change her mechanics. She is on pace to run sub11 and set the HS record in 1 and 2 with what you describe as poor technique but as usual you NEVER cite an actual flaw. You are nothing but a clueless troll.
Good for her. If she identifies as a boy let her race with the boys. I'm all for anyone running at the gender they identify as and this process a biological female can beat biological makes no trans women running as women is not a genetic advantage.
It was a mixed race, the last couple of finishers in the heat were also girls. They set up the race this way so she would have competition to push her. And she crushed it! Watch the fist pump at the finish! She said afterwards it was the hardest effort she has ever put into a race, pretty obvious why.
Also, they had to get permission to allow the girls to run in the same heat as the boys. Not so much when boys want to race against girls!!! Wow! And there should be no questioning this as qualifying for one of the all time fastest girls 100's. It's absolutely 100% legit! Unlike giving the ncaa swimming title to a man who finished dead even against a girl, and their times were exactly the same, to the hundreth. And they gave the trophy to the guy!? What a joke.
I see you've been reading Riley Gaines's fundraising spam. She writes to misleadingly imply what you've said. In fact Gaines finished tied with Lia Thomas for 5th in the 200y free. Thomas won her title in the 500y free by a couple seconds. Riley Gaines wasn't in that race.
More on topic, I don't see why women who are far above almost all their available competition shouldn't be able to chase times in men's races like this. No one holds it against high school boys who outclass the competition when they jump into a pro race. Similarly, this does tend to happen for women in marathons -- no one thinks too much about the women-only-race record, and the one against all competition is several minutes faster.
A 17yo high school junior currently has the #3 all-time American HS time in the 100m with 11.08, and also (previously?) a National HS record in the Indoor 200m with 22.89
Why on Earth would she need to change her events at this stage
Very impressive! I notice she is very well developed for a junior athlete, so it will be interesting to see what her genetic potential is in future years.
With a name like that does she compete internationally for Denmark??
I asked her dad that one day, but he said they weren't considering it. I think it would be possible and if I remember correctly, he mentioned that they had reached out to the family... But no. Not on the table right now.
No investigation of and subsequent suspension for a positive sample is an intrinsic part of “elite sprinting”. It is part of a regulatory and disciplinary framework that is not unique to elite sprinting, or even just sprinting, or even just t&f.
BOTTOM LINE: No athlete needs to use supplements. Every time they do so, they knowingly take a risk.
Let’s say his story is believable. Taking something a clueless teammate hands you is extremely negligent. Competing when you either didn’t know what was in something you ingested, or when you knew that it contained a practice-legal-only substance, is incredibly irresponsible.
All of this is why he was sanctioned and served a suspension.
Your “real question” is a totally separate issue and is not relevant to Bailey’s easily and totally avoidable breaking of a rule that he knew or should have known in advance.
I’ve got nothing against Bailey, but when it comes to kids, why take the risk? Kids have to be not only trained, but also educated and advised. The irresponsibility he demonstrated as an adult bears directly on the subject-matter that is at some point likely to arise during their interaction.
I wouldn’t want him coaching my kid. Adults, fine—I believe that they can do what they wish, hire whatever coach they want, etc, as long as they pay fornit all out of their own pocket. Coaches who receive public monies should be held to social, not personal, standards. If I were the king of everything, I would be inclined to let offenses like Bailey’s still permit him to coach adults, but not kids. There is a different set of requirements, qualifications, and skills that applies.
If her parents are controlling the situation, and if they selected and are paying Bailey, and if they are themselves responsible people, then I have absolutely no problem with it. Absolutely none. I believe that a parent’s right to determine what is in their kid’s best interest is paramount, if not absolute. I am not about to go second-guessing her parents’ decisions or management of their daughter’s track experience.
So there you go.
As far as her form goes, let me say that she is still young. BASED ONLY ON WHAT I CAN TELL FROM THE POSTED VID, she sprints with a very old-school form, that is more akin to a fast run, and which does not favorably recruit all the body has to offer as far as a fast sprint is concerned. Chest way out, shoulders back, low knees, groin-concentrated. This can be an “easy” way to “sprint”: think of it as a variant of Michael Johnson leg action, with exaggerated chest out and shoulders back, to “tighten” the core and permit better communication between the arm and leg action, between the upper- and lower-body.
As it did for him, it might work for her in the 200 or 400, if she can change her arms a bit. If not, she will need to get WAY stronger, especially in the groin, like for instance VCB was. I don’t see her having the turnover of Evelyn Ashford or MJ, and turnover is the key to making this type of form work, because you are not applying maximum force your strides will be shorter and there will need to be more of them per unit time.
Let’s not even talk about early drive.
As for absolute 100m vmax, it won’t work. Maintenance phase could be ok, though.
BTW those comparing her to Schippers, their sprint forms are completely different. Schippers’ allowed her to achieve great success at the absolute highest level.
Now I have no idea about the progression of her form, because I haven’t followed her. For all I know, it could be much improved over what it was in the past, and has now gotten her to 11-low. Great! But, of course, everybody wants to improve, especially after such a high degree of success so young, and able to see the next level. She has much work to do if she wishes to succeed at that level.
Have you seen her closing speed on video? From USATF u20 100 final? Her 4x2 relay at Oregon Relays this year? Her 4x1 anchor in 2022? The data from her closing speed placed her just .02 slower than 3rd place TT Terry in the senior women’s race over last 40m and faster than the rest of the senior women’s final. Her weakness is that at 5’10 she is not physically developed YET to handle the force needed for a great drive phase but she has made steady progress in the weight room and practice according to her coaches and my conversations with her. You are bashing her ability to take next step in previous post but appear to be very unfamiliar with her.
Looking back over your conversations you have never been a fan of Bailey well prior to his unfortunate stimulant positive. I know the family played a role in Bailey’s being hired and are well aware of his history. If you actually did some review of MBP’s interviews you’d know she is a bright and enlightened athlete rare in the sport at such a young age and a driven competitor that is highly respectful of her competition. Casting unfounded and baseless aspersions on her shows your ignorance of the character of MBP.
She is a kid/young woman. I casted absolutely no aspersions on her. I was offering my opinion on whether Bailey is qualified to receive public monies to coach minors.
And I said straight up that I don’t know if he even does, and that the parents should be in control if they aren’t nuts.
If you have a different opinion, fine—but you come in here, criticize, get a well-reasoned and detailed response, and then you take the convo right back to the beginning instead of moving it forward.
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MBP ran a 10.01 anchor at Oregon Relays a year ago. This year was 9.85 on 4x1 leg at Oregon Relays. She was 21.5 overcoming a 35 meter lead to win the 4x2 relay for her team vs a talented Long Beach Wilson sub 24 second sprinter. Bet she could go sub 51 in the 400. When will she try the open 400?
MBP set the NFHS National record last Saturday in 100, breaking Marion Jones record of 11.14 set in 1992. Allyson Felix holds the NFHS record at 22.54 so MBP will take that down quite possibly by the end of the month in the state meet.
MBP set the NFHS National record last Saturday in 100, breaking Marion Jones record of 11.14 set in 1992. Allyson Felix holds the NFHS record at 22.54 so MBP will take that down quite possibly by the end of the month in the state meet.
Her 200 PR is 22.61, right? That’s pretty crazy. She’s already ahead of where Abby Steiner was in high school when Steiner went 22.73 as a senior.
I say this in a positive way and not negatively at all - MBP looks like a woman among girls when she’s on the track. It will be fun to follow her in the coming years.
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