As a 22 year old I'd feel an obligation to comply with a military draft if it was to defend the country from an invasion of Jacksonville or Los Angeles, not Eastern Europe or any of the island chains surrounding China.
The Taliban were motivated by religion, do you really think billions of Chinese will be motivated by communism or the communist party to fight the US? I doubt it.
You are really out of date. Labeling China a communist nation is circa 1973 not 2023. They are adding dozens of billionaires every few years to global billionaire list.
* China wants the Yuan as the global reserve currency.
* China wants to dominate and rule Asia.
* China wants to dominate Africa
* China wants to dominate and rule Eurasia.
A military conflict already is occurring. Too many posters on this thread envision war as: long range bombers, submarines off the coast and I.C.B.M.s. Think of frogs in gradually warming water.
Billionaires who are beholden and under the thumb of the communist party. How many Chinese billionaires dare to criticize or run afoul of the Chinese government?
Did you live through the cold war? There's zero chance US goes to war with China. Plus, China holds a huge amount of our debt and relies heavily on our conspicuous consumption. Starting a war with us would tank their economy. But even if it does happen. Only the US has been at war for the last 30 years. As seen in the Ukraine, you can front all you want, but when it comes to actual fighting on the ground, experience counts more than numbers. Russian troops are completely inept.
China has no blue water navy and its completely reliant on global shipping for the bulk of it's food and energy.
The US could kill 500 million Chinese through starvation alone by parking 1 carrier group in the Indian ocean to interdict anything carrying anything to China.
China's military is WORSE than Russia's. They are watching what's unfolding in Ukraine and they have learned that war with Taiwan let alone the US would be national suicide.
The CCP is evil not stupid. There will be no war with China.
What utter nonsense you spew. China is self-sufficient in food and most certainly do have a navy. It is a fraction of the size of the US Navy but the US's navy is typically spread thin supporting all it's proxy wars and other global bullying. Why would China need a big navy, they've never invaded another country.
The Taiwanese military is very likely about 1/4 Chinese already anyway. They are pretty much indistinguishable people. But nevermind, the reunification party may get elected soon giving China the win without firing a shot.
And, since you haven't noticed, Ukraine has been raised. Russia has crushed them. This war will be over soon. Just wait for the mud to dry. So, you're right, China, with it's 100x production capacity of the US, is watching, and have likely already have made 100 million shells and a billion drones.
Did you live through the cold war? There's zero chance US goes to war with China. Plus, China holds a huge amount of our debt and relies heavily on our conspicuous consumption. Starting a war with us would tank their economy. But even if it does happen. Only the US has been at war for the last 30 years. As seen in the Ukraine, you can front all you want, but when it comes to actual fighting on the ground, experience counts more than numbers. Russian troops are completely inept.
Casualty ratio of 7 Ukrainians for every 1 Russian. Russia, with an annual military budget of less than what the US sent Ukraine over the past year, has kicked NATO's ass.
China has no blue water navy and its completely reliant on global shipping for the bulk of it's food and energy.
The US could kill 500 million Chinese through starvation alone by parking 1 carrier group in the Indian ocean to interdict anything carrying anything to China.
China's military is WORSE than Russia's. They are watching what's unfolding in Ukraine and they have learned that war with Taiwan let alone the US would be national suicide.
The CCP is evil not stupid. There will be no war with China.
What utter nonsense you spew. China is self-sufficient in food and most certainly do have a navy. It is a fraction of the size of the US Navy but the US's navy is typically spread thin supporting all it's proxy wars and other global bullying. Why would China need a big navy, they've never invaded another country.
The Taiwanese military is very likely about 1/4 Chinese already anyway. They are pretty much indistinguishable people. But nevermind, the reunification party may get elected soon giving China the win without firing a shot.
And, since you haven't noticed, Ukraine has been raised. Russia has crushed them. This war will be over soon. Just wait for the mud to dry. So, you're right, China, with it's 100x production capacity of the US, is watching, and have likely already have made 100 million shells and a billion drones.
In other words, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
There's a reason the people of Taiwan are "pretty much indistinguishable people."
You should put down the bong and read a little 20th century Chinese history.
Russia is winning in Ukraine for sure. But it's taking them much longer than they thought it would. The important issue is the united front the entire western world has taken on Russian aggression. If the sanctions levied on Russia were put on China China's economy would collapse within the year.
If China is self sufficient in food why are they the 2nd largest importer of food on the planet?
China would need a blue water navy to protect it's shipping lanes and to project power more than 50 miles off it's coast.
The US defense budget and capabilities is double China and Russia combined.
Budget? Yes.
Capabilities? Not even close.
The US budget is how many times that of the Taliban? How did that turn out?
Our enlisted army is basically made up of people who didn't feel like delivering pizzas, flipping burgers, or driving an Uber any longer. Overweight, lazy, uneducated, unmotivated, and soft. Just think of the people in your high school class that enlisted in the Army. Were they the members of the National Honor Society or the guys sitting outside the principal's office waiting for their next detention? The ones who were on the athletic field representing their school or the ones standing on the corner smoking a cigarette because they are just "so cool?" Way too many of them are looking for a quick payout from Uncle Sam for "disabilities" they received after two years of service sitting in the motor pool looking at their phones.
Money and technology can only get us so far. Men with the willingness to endure hardships and do bad things to people are needed. The US just doesn't have enough of them anymore. Look at the technological advantage we had in Iraq and Afghanistan. We just steamrolled right over them, didn't we? Twenty years in Afghanistan and we still got chased out with our tails between our legs like Vietnam.
I served my time, patrolled the $hitholes of Iraq in an infantry company, and know as well as anyone here what our capabilities are. We might fight to a stalemate with Russia. China? I don't even want to think about it. Our best play is to avoid a war with either of them at all costs.
China has no blue water navy and its completely reliant on global shipping for the bulk of it's food and energy.
The US could kill 500 million Chinese through starvation alone by parking 1 carrier group in the Indian ocean to interdict anything carrying anything to China.
China's military is WORSE than Russia's. They are watching what's unfolding in Ukraine and they have learned that war with Taiwan let alone the US would be national suicide.
The CCP is evil not stupid. There will be no war with China.
I understand that carrier strike group is 100% vulnerable to hypersonic missles Russia already tried in Ukraine and China will also own soon.
ALso military bases like Guam used for carrier group supplies are also extremely vulnerable and can be easily destroyed
China has no blue water navy and its completely reliant on global shipping for the bulk of it's food and energy.
The US could kill 500 million Chinese through starvation alone by parking 1 carrier group in the Indian ocean to interdict anything carrying anything to China.
China's military is WORSE than Russia's. They are watching what's unfolding in Ukraine and they have learned that war with Taiwan let alone the US would be national suicide.
The CCP is evil not stupid. There will be no war with China.
I understand that carrier strike group is 100% vulnerable to hypersonic missles Russia already tried in Ukraine and China will also own soon.
ALso military bases like Guam used for carrier group supplies are also extremely vulnerable and can be easily destroyed
Missiles don't have infinite range. The Indian Ocean is largely out of reach of China's missiles as is Guam.
China has no blue water navy and its completely reliant on global shipping for the bulk of it's food and energy.
The US could kill 500 million Chinese through starvation alone by parking 1 carrier group in the Indian ocean to interdict anything carrying anything to China.
China's military is WORSE than Russia's. They are watching what's unfolding in Ukraine and they have learned that war with Taiwan let alone the US would be national suicide.
The CCP is evil not stupid. There will be no war with China.
I understand that carrier strike group is 100% vulnerable to hypersonic missles Russia already tried in Ukraine and China will also own soon.
Kyiv apartment buildings aren't even "100% vulnerable to hypersonic missles Russia already tried."
You live in a deluded fantasy world if you think the U.S. Navy can't conduct operations around the globe at will.
The US defense budget and capabilities is double China and Russia combined.
Budget? Yes.
Capabilities? Not even close.
The US budget is how many times that of the Taliban? How did that turn out?
Our enlisted army is basically made up of people who didn't feel like delivering pizzas, flipping burgers, or driving an Uber any longer. Overweight, lazy, uneducated, unmotivated, and soft. Just think of the people in your high school class that enlisted in the Army. Were they the members of the National Honor Society or the guys sitting outside the principal's office waiting for their next detention? The ones who were on the athletic field representing their school or the ones standing on the corner smoking a cigarette because they are just "so cool?" Way too many of them are looking for a quick payout from Uncle Sam for "disabilities" they received after two years of service sitting in the motor pool looking at their phones.
Money and technology can only get us so far. Men with the willingness to endure hardships and do bad things to people are needed. The US just doesn't have enough of them anymore. Look at the technological advantage we had in Iraq and Afghanistan. We just steamrolled right over them, didn't we? Twenty years in Afghanistan and we still got chased out with our tails between our legs like Vietnam.
I served my time, patrolled the $hitholes of Iraq in an infantry company, and know as well as anyone here what our capabilities are. We might fight to a stalemate with Russia. China? I don't even want to think about it. Our best play is to avoid a war with either of them at all costs.
so you think Chinese army is tough? from my experience It's the same type of Chinese who join the army, cuz they don't know better things to do besides douyin and computer game.. middle easters are tough cuz they are religious imo.
I understand that carrier strike group is 100% vulnerable to hypersonic missles Russia already tried in Ukraine and China will also own soon.
ALso military bases like Guam used for carrier group supplies are also extremely vulnerable and can be easily destroyed
Missiles don't have infinite range. The Indian Ocean is largely out of reach of China's missiles as is Guam.
Common, don't be lazy
missles usually are launched from planes so any point in indian or pacific ocean easily accessible to chinese
I don't know how many hypersonic missles can airstrike carrier withstand - but russians usually attack ukraine with 80-100 missles every time. And if they wanted to strike aircraft carrier I'm sure they could easily do 3 times of that.
I really doubt aircraft carrier can withstand 300-400 hypersonic missles, probably even 20-30 will be enough
Missiles don't have infinite range. The Indian Ocean is largely out of reach of China's missiles as is Guam.
Common, don't be lazy
missles usually are launched from planes so any point in indian or pacific ocean easily accessible to chinese
I don't know how many hypersonic missles can airstrike carrier withstand - but russians usually attack ukraine with 80-100 missles every time. And if they wanted to strike aircraft carrier I'm sure they could easily do 3 times of that.
I really doubt aircraft carrier can withstand 300-400 hypersonic missles, probably even 20-30 will be enough
You have to know exactly where the carrier is and you have to get the plane close enough to fire the missile. This isn't as easy as you seem to think.
I disagree. China is not like North Korea or Iran. China doesn't have a suicide mentality like Iran and North Korea do. When both sides get a bloody nose and a broken jaw the war will end. Both countries are too big to fail, and they both know it. They actually need each other to survive. Strange as that may sound but it's true.
Like Chinese children to make Nikes cheaply and Americans to buy overpriced Nikes?
I mean that is a factor but China has a big ego. They’re angry about Taiwan and Hong Kong. Their current leader thinks he’s invincible.
I see we have someone still trapped in 1984. Chinese kids making Nikes? Newsflash....half of your possessions are made in China and another 25% made in other SE Asian countries.
This same question gets posted during 80’s cold war, gulf war, somalia conflict, war in iraq/iran/Afghanistan, every time n korea does anything. Can you think of an original topic?
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