Levins shows high mileage works

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Cam basically off the radar and racing poorly between ~2018 and 2022? Yes, covid limited opportunities for a period there. But I also recall some injuries. I think he ran north of 2:14 at one point. I'm glad he's made a comeback, but many people here wrote him off and blamed the high mileage.

To echo what someone above me said, high mileage works for Cam, at times. A lot of US guys would have been forced to retire if they had 4 years of poor performances.

A main component of why he is able to run such high mileage is he runs so slow. On a podcast He said if he can avg 4:30km pace for his runs he’s going good (his training days are also 90min-80min-70min for 3 runs he said). I think just as lagat was the extreme example of low mileage high intensity with world class results levins the the extreme example of low intensity high volume. Basically outside of 2 standard workouts a week he does a whack load of trotting around. Probably only gets the aerobic stimulus because he’s so beat up all the time

Hi, not true. 1) you are not Josphat's coach. 2) Sammy won Mullys in 2017 and has been getting slower since. He would be beaten by the top 5 women in London. He only suffered the accident late last year. Sammy's results have been bad for years because you don't know how to coach him.

What is his pace for those 150 mile runs?

That's weird. Before Cam Levins, I never heard anything about high mileage working.

Was anyone asking for more proof that running alot makes you a better runner?

No but they did want people to realize that “alot” is not a word.

Moral of the story for Levins is run Kenyan mileage to run Kenyan times

1) I'm the coach of Josphat. 2) Sammy correct won the Mully's in 2017 . What's also true is he has mostly got pacemaking jobs since ......

If we stay at the thread's subject it has been proved over and over again that high mileage works, as long as the runner won't be overtrained or injured. But what also is true some runners became world class on relatively low mileage, and I think that fact interests most running readers here at LRC.How was it possible to run so relatively small amounts of mileage and still reach the world top? 🤔

Or run Japanese mileage to run Japanese times.

From the LR WTW column:
18 – is the number of Japanese men who have broken 2:08 this year, including four in Tokyo. Only five Americans have ever done it.

4:30 per k or 7:15 per mile pace on average for non workout mileage.

Cam was rumored to run 150 mpw back in his days at Southern Utah. Also pretty much any mileage outside of his workouts were 7:30 pace of slower. Some weeks he would do four workouts in a week, first one consisted of 1-2 mile reps, then 800m-1km, then 400-600m, and lastly 100m-200m.

When was his last pacemaking job?

Jan, you do not coach Josphat; he has his own training group (at least you got his name right this time). You stalking him on social media doesn't count as coaching.

Regarding Sammy, not only have you botched his training, you've been a poor manager as well. Many will recall how you promised to bring him to Europe to race last year. Was that another lie?

170 miles a week and the public has never heard of him

Would get destroyed in a major marathon.

Yeah high mileage seems to work just great *laugh*

Mediocre footballers earn 10x a week what he earns in a year

I think he shows that high mileage can work, but also that different athletes thrive off of different programs. Cam Levins ran 13:18 and 27:27 off of very high mileage the year he won NCAA. Salazar backed off his mileage a whole lot and had him doing more intense track work. He improved marginally to 13:15 and 27:07, but if you had watched the college races, you could see that he was capable of running faster at the time. I don't know if he really improved at all with NOP, but he got injured a lot more. Since returning to doing insane mileage, he has been able to show progress once again. Obviously mileage works for distance runners, but attempting to imitate Levins' program would result in the majority of runners totally breaking down. For Levins, the increased volume of intense track sessions caused him to break down. It is obviously important for a coach to not follow a cookie cutter program or be too married to one philosophy.

What you say is not true. Josphat is coached by me and his training mates just follow. He is the main runner in the group. One of his training mates is a former junior East African Champs 1500m medalist, back then coached by me. Sammy I just coach. I'm not his manager.

Now stop hijacking this thread with your lies.🧙‍♂️🇸🇪

I feel like runners can do both and stimulate all of the various physiological systems in different ways to optimize overall performance. So track training for running fast in the spring/summer on the oval and then huge volume into a fall marathon. Most, not all, but most runners would probably run faster in all disciplines and prove more durable over time if they approached it this way.