Also, who cares? Until we know what happens after life on earth we really cant say who is productive and who isnt. All we know is who weve been told we should judge for their decisions. If theyre happy then theyre worth having in a society.
Working is modern day slavery. You slave away for 40+ hours a week and the majority of people are still dead broke at the end of the week. That is slavery.
“The worst part about slavery is that after the money I was paid, I still had to buy groceries, pay off the property I owned, pay taxes on my multiple cars and then I had very little money to go out for drinks with my friends. Slavery was a real bummer in that regard.”
The fundamental reality is with the rise of dating apps along with the pill, a lot of men are struggling to find a partner because the dating dynamics has changed giving women more power to pursue men who are out of their league. There is no incentive for young men to work and die as a worker bee and a lot of them are realising that and becoming full of nihilism. Very scary times ahead of us
The fundamental reality is with the rise of dating apps along with the pill, a lot of men are struggling to find a partner because the dating dynamics has changed giving women more power to pursue men who are out of their league. There is no incentive for young men to work and die as a worker bee and a lot of them are realising that and becoming full of nihilism. Very scary times ahead of us
not true at all. I know several women who are single but would like to date me if I would not be happy in a relationship. And I am not especially good looking or with a high paying job. Being a stable person is enough really.
The fundamental reality is with the rise of dating apps along with the pill, a lot of men are struggling to find a partner because the dating dynamics has changed giving women more power to pursue men who are out of their league. There is no incentive for young men to work and die as a worker bee and a lot of them are realising that and becoming full of nihilism. Very scary times ahead of us
The contraceptive pill has been around for sixty years and less than 15% of American women of reproductive age take it. It's not a modern phenomenon.
I'm also curious why a less sexually liberated society would benefit sexless men. If women are not having sex with these men now, then they're sure as hell not going to if they know they're stuck with them.
Most men throughout the history of mankind have been genetic dead ends. In other words, their male lines died out, either because they could not reproduce children that women were attracted to sufficiently, or could not repridyce themselves.
Unmarried men die a lot younger than married men or unmarried women, so it's just genetics at play
I also know a lot of non working men in this age group. They seem so poorly motivated compared to women of the same age. Maybe the idea that there is marriage and a good job waiting for all men needs to be repositioned by educators, so these men are more prepared for the realities of the modern world.
I also know some working men born into quite favourable circumstances who have swallowed the red pill doctrine so that they have rendered themselves undatable, incapable of promotion and incapable of attracting more than unemployed women. Most of them are still single approaching their fifties, having revised to marry their plain unemployed girlfriend as they consider themselves too high a prize. Or they turn into passport bros and get themselves what is effectively a slave with brown skin from a poorer country.
Yes, I believe that if you're too poor or lazy to pass on your genes at least live and die with some dignity. Don't winge and moan about your lot in life. Accept your failure, but know that the world thanks you for not being able to reproduce. One less lifetime of trash in the landfill is worth more to your animal friends than any positivity your progeny would've brought to this slop pile of existence. Next round of Fortnight starts in 3 minutes.
Japan, which is seen as a more traditional but economically developed society has very low rates of uptake of the contraceptive pill and women are expected to be married by age 26.
The men there are absolutely miserable and it has 2-3x times the rate of suicide than other developed nations.
I went to business school with a guy who had the single highest combination of looks, IQ and athleticism I've seen. Had it all.
In his late 20s, despite by all accounts excelling at work, he did what your friends have done (minus the gaming). Seems to spend all his time reading, exercising and doesn't seem at all depressed.
He was always extremely perceptive. He'd speak at length about political and economic observations of his which have all been prescient. Just last week I read an article from a leading UK economics writer about the UK housing market which made the points this guy made as a 23 year old kid almost a decade ago.
On one hand, it's frustrating to witness his indifference. On the other, it's slightly jarring when somebody with off the charts cognitive ability has basically determined that it's not worth the effort.
The fundamental reality is with the rise of dating apps along with the pill, a lot of men are struggling to find a partner because the dating dynamics has changed giving women more power to pursue men who are out of their league. There is no incentive for young men to work and die as a worker bee and a lot of them are realising that and becoming full of nihilism. Very scary times ahead of us
Women technically don't need men nowadays. They have great careers and can pick all the hot alpha guys in the corporate world, etc. Same with all the guys in the corporate world who get all the alpha females.
It's the middle-class that struggles. So middle class men are being hedonistic and turning into Omega males.
It's not a women/men issue; it's a white-collar vs. blue-collar issue.
Most men throughout the history of mankind have been genetic dead ends. In other words, their male lines died out, either because they could not reproduce children that women were attracted to sufficiently, or could not repridyce themselves.
Unmarried men die a lot younger than married men or unmarried women, so it's just genetics at play
I also know a lot of non working men in this age group. They seem so poorly motivated compared to women of the same age. Maybe the idea that there is marriage and a good job waiting for all men needs to be repositioned by educators, so these men are more prepared for the realities of the modern world.
I also know some working men born into quite favourable circumstances who have swallowed the red pill doctrine so that they have rendered themselves undatable, incapable of promotion and incapable of attracting more than unemployed women. Most of them are still single approaching their fifties, having revised to marry their plain unemployed girlfriend as they consider themselves too high a prize. Or they turn into passport bros and get themselves what is effectively a slave with brown skin from a poorer country.
Women from their teens to their 40s are MUCH more career-motivated than most men of those ages I know. They are going from being HS popularity queens to sorority girls, then nailing internships and landing great jobs out of college right away.
Some guys are like this but then they are also more likely to game and do lazy things like that. I quit gaming for fear of avoiding being stereotyped as one of those guys...career first before everything, then everything fell into place.
Marriage works if you get lucky, but also if you put all the effort into improving yourself too and having healthy male and female friendships BEFORE marriage and dating.
Also, women won't date lazy men at all unless they have family $ in some cases.
I went to business school with a guy who had the single highest combination of looks, IQ and athleticism I've seen. Had it all.
In his late 20s, despite by all accounts excelling at work, he did what your friends have done (minus the gaming). Seems to spend all his time reading, exercising and doesn't seem at all depressed.
He was always extremely perceptive. He'd speak at length about political and economic observations of his which have all been prescient. Just last week I read an article from a leading UK economics writer about the UK housing market which made the points this guy made as a 23 year old kid almost a decade ago.
On one hand, it's frustrating to witness his indifference. On the other, it's slightly jarring when somebody with off the charts cognitive ability has basically determined that it's not worth the effort.
It goes against what society has taught us since the '90s.
Do well in HS, be well-rounded.
Go to college.
Get good job.
Move on up through career, marry, have a family, buy a house.
But if the system is crashing is it worth it?
Back in HS the guidance counselors said college was the way--and the trades were for the kids who were druggies (wrongly suggested). Those kids are doing great in blue-collar jobs and have married. Now they married locally and didn't move from their hometown as much as white-collar kids did but they have more stable careers.
I went to business school with a guy who had the single highest combination of looks, IQ and athleticism I've seen. Had it all.
In his late 20s, despite by all accounts excelling at work, he did what your friends have done (minus the gaming). Seems to spend all his time reading, exercising and doesn't seem at all depressed.
He was always extremely perceptive. He'd speak at length about political and economic observations of his which have all been prescient. Just last week I read an article from a leading UK economics writer about the UK housing market which made the points this guy made as a 23 year old kid almost a decade ago.
On one hand, it's frustrating to witness his indifference. On the other, it's slightly jarring when somebody with off the charts cognitive ability has basically determined that it's not worth the effort.
It goes against what society has taught us since the '90s.
Do well in HS, be well-rounded.
Go to college.
Get good job.
Move on up through career, marry, have a family, buy a house.
But if the system is crashing is it worth it?
Back in HS the guidance counselors said college was the way--and the trades were for the kids who were druggies (wrongly suggested). Those kids are doing great in blue-collar jobs and have married. Now they married locally and didn't move from their hometown as much as white-collar kids did but they have more stable careers.
In my experience, this is wrong. A few examples isn't the rule. The fact is Bachelors degrees make more than high school diplomas. And Masters more than Bachelors. And PhDs more than Masters. Getting educated is still, and always will be the answer if you want to make more money. The fact is being educated allows you to do more difficult jobs as you get older and make more money. There is no broad evidence against that. One example here or there isn't a trend. You have to look at the entire population.
This means not everyone will hit the jackpot with a good job after getting educated. The problem is too many people think you get your degrees and everyone will start calling you. It's a competitive world. You have to fight if you want a job.
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