Hey, that's good work for Brosnan, BUT it's not out of line with other's improvement around him. Of the top 12 right now, half of them had similar improvement to Staggs. There are MANY with similar improvements or more behind Staggs.
Essay - 3:57.37 to 3:50.46
Waskom - 3:56.43 to 3:51.90
Hamilton - 3:59.64 to 3:52.99
Vanoppen - 4:01.25 to 3:54.85
Strand - 4:01.52 to 3:55.08
Are all of these coaches getting similar attention for their coaching genius? Also, it's not indicative of a coaches success to look at one athlete. Where are all the threads talking about the South Carolina coach being the best in the NCAA?
Hey, that's good work for Brosnan, BUT it's not out of line with other's improvement around him. Of the top 12 right now, half of them had similar improvement to Staggs. There are MANY with similar improvements or more behind Staggs.
Essay - 3:57.37 to 3:50.46
Waskom - 3:56.43 to 3:51.90
Hamilton - 3:59.64 to 3:52.99
Vanoppen - 4:01.25 to 3:54.85
Strand - 4:01.52 to 3:55.08
Are all of these coaches getting similar attention for their coaching genius? Also, it's not indicative of a coaches success to look at one athlete. Where are all the threads talking about the South Carolina coach being the best in the NCAA?
Let’s break this down.
Essayi has an outdoor 1500m best of 3:34.58
Waskom is the 1500m NCAA champion. But yes, Washington coach has been doing an amazing job. This was mentioned several times
Vanoppen has an outdoor 1500m best of 3:37.0
Quite the progress for Strand however
You can also add the MIT guy (Ryan Wilson) who had the best progress of them all… Who has ever heard of a guy going from 4:06 to 3:55. However, he had run 1:48.4 back in 2021, but it’s really still unheard of.
BTW: you also get points for managing to hate on a 4:01.4 to a 3:54.9 progression.
Hey, that's good work for Brosnan, BUT it's not out of line with other's improvement around him. Of the top 12 right now, half of them had similar improvement to Staggs. There are MANY with similar improvements or more behind Staggs.
Essay - 3:57.37 to 3:50.46
Waskom - 3:56.43 to 3:51.90
Hamilton - 3:59.64 to 3:52.99
Vanoppen - 4:01.25 to 3:54.85
Strand - 4:01.52 to 3:55.08
Are all of these coaches getting similar attention for their coaching genius? Also, it's not indicative of a coaches success to look at one athlete. Where are all the threads talking about the South Carolina coach being the best in the NCAA?
Let’s break this down.
Essayi has an outdoor 1500m best of 3:34.58
Waskom is the 1500m NCAA champion. But yes, Washington coach has been doing an amazing job. This was mentioned several times
Vanoppen has an outdoor 1500m best of 3:37.0
Quite the progress for Strand however
You can also add the MIT guy (Ryan Wilson) who had the best progress of them all… Who has ever heard of a guy going from 4:06 to 3:55. However, he had run 1:48.4 back in 2021, but it’s really still unheard of.
BTW: you also get points for managing to hate on a 4:01.4 to a 3:54.9 progression.
Sounds like you're the one hating on these other guys. Their mile PR was their mile PR. The stats are the stats. Yeah but, yeah but, yeah but. I'm sure you'll find a way to make this about the coach. You get points for that.
Staggs improved quite a bit this year, but not out of line with what many do. Great job and hats off to him. Hats off to the rest of these guys who improved so much as well. Most of their coaches won't be looking for recognition for their runner's accomplishments.
Waskom is the 1500m NCAA champion. But yes, Washington coach has been doing an amazing job. This was mentioned several times
Vanoppen has an outdoor 1500m best of 3:37.0
Quite the progress for Strand however
You can also add the MIT guy (Ryan Wilson) who had the best progress of them all… Who has ever heard of a guy going from 4:06 to 3:55. However, he had run 1:48.4 back in 2021, but it’s really still unheard of.
BTW: you also get points for managing to hate on a 4:01.4 to a 3:54.9 progression.
Sounds like you're the one hating on these other guys. Their mile PR was their mile PR. The stats are the stats. Yeah but, yeah but, yeah but. I'm sure you'll find a way to make this about the coach. You get points for that.
Staggs improved quite a bit this year, but not out of line with what many do. Great job and hats off to him. Hats off to the rest of these guys who improved so much as well. Most of their coaches won't be looking for recognition for their runner's accomplishments.
Amazing race by Strand (and whole North Carolina team) today in DMR
Hey, that's good work for Brosnan, BUT it's not out of line with other's improvement around him. Of the top 12 right now, half of them had similar improvement to Staggs. There are MANY with similar improvements or more behind Staggs.
Essay - 3:57.37 to 3:50.46
Waskom - 3:56.43 to 3:51.90
Hamilton - 3:59.64 to 3:52.99
Vanoppen - 4:01.25 to 3:54.85
Strand - 4:01.52 to 3:55.08
Are all of these coaches getting similar attention for their coaching genius? Also, it's not indicative of a coaches success to look at one athlete. Where are all the threads talking about the South Carolina coach being the best in the NCAA?
Let’s break this down.
Essayi has an outdoor 1500m best of 3:34.58
Waskom is the 1500m NCAA champion. But yes, Washington coach has been doing an amazing job. This was mentioned several times
Vanoppen has an outdoor 1500m best of 3:37.0
Quite the progress for Strand however
You can also add the MIT guy (Ryan Wilson) who had the best progress of them all… Who has ever heard of a guy going from 4:06 to 3:55. However, he had run 1:48.4 back in 2021, but it’s really still unheard of.
BTW: you also get points for managing to hate on a 4:01.4 to a 3:54.9 progression.
You nailed it. UCLA had done nothing in the distance really for years and now they have a 3:54 guy. I don't recall a single thread talking about UCLA's fantastic talent prior to August last year. You identify the coach when he takes a high school program that had done nothing for decades and turns it into a multi-time national champion with three different de facto national champions plus a national junior xc champ and a twin just as good. Then when you start to see the major progress at his college job, you say, look at the coach. The athletes are the ones who have to do it, so their names are rightly talked about and they won't just disappear when they leave either. But the troll on this thread just doesn't like being proven wrong again and again. Some people can coach a lot better than others. It is just a fact.
Waskom is the 1500m NCAA champion. But yes, Washington coach has been doing an amazing job. This was mentioned several times
Vanoppen has an outdoor 1500m best of 3:37.0
Quite the progress for Strand however
You can also add the MIT guy (Ryan Wilson) who had the best progress of them all… Who has ever heard of a guy going from 4:06 to 3:55. However, he had run 1:48.4 back in 2021, but it’s really still unheard of.
BTW: you also get points for managing to hate on a 4:01.4 to a 3:54.9 progression.
You nailed it. UCLA had done nothing in the distance really for years and now they have a 3:54 guy. I don't recall a single thread talking about UCLA's fantastic talent prior to August last year. You identify the coach when he takes a high school program that had done nothing for decades and turns it into a multi-time national champion with three different de facto national champions plus a national junior xc champ and a twin just as good. Then when you start to see the major progress at his college job, you say, look at the coach. The athletes are the ones who have to do it, so their names are rightly talked about and they won't just disappear when they leave either. But the troll on this thread just doesn't like being proven wrong again and again. Some people can coach a lot better than others. It is just a fact.
So, I guess it depends on what you call major progress. Would you say this year is major progress over last year based on their top performances? I view last year's results as a better program. Don't get me wrong, Staggs has run great, but I wouldn't say the distance program overall has made major progress based on the results. What am I missing? Yet, the Brosnan gaslight crew wants to claim that he's performed miracles.