She takes this issue seriously and recently travelled from UK to Italy by train, involving a 30hour journey. There was no such option for her to travel to Australia, but has remained consistent in her stance.
I admire her for acting on her beliefs but did anyone tell her that the planes she'd have taken to Oz and back will go there anyway even if she's not onboard?
Exactly. The plane probably had an empty seat. She probably could have guaranteed it by buying it last minute.
Sad how people come up with random BS to "fight climate change". They should be campaigning for WFH options to stop employees from making meaningless trips to the office at the peak of traffic. That would benefit everyone while cutting inflation.
Small changes won’t make a difference as long as China and India continue to pollute. One charge that the US government can make is to support innovation, such as carbon capture, by giving tax credits to the oil and gas companies that are developing it. Another solution is to switch to nuclear power, but continue to use natural gas (mostly clean) while the country transitions.
John Podesta oversees the distribution of the climate change $$$ to non profits and other useless projects. It makes me wonder if the climate issue is being exploited to make democrats wealthy. It’s seems to be a trend.
Crazy leftists. This is what you have done. This is on you, you have convinced kids of what no real scientific study has shown that climate change is going to destroy life on earth. For the sane people in the middle just being quiet and letting this continue, this is only going to get worse if you don't join the people calling out the BS.
So do you think there are passenger ships traveling between the UK and Australia? It's not the 1920s. Do you have any idea how long such a round trip would take?
Probably not as long as it did in the 1920’s.
Back in the 60s the Australian Cricket team used to have to travel back and forth to England. Took months
It's no real surprise that a young runner would cite this as a reason for not competing and I can't blame her, given the amount of indoctrination young people are subjected to.
This way, she has a reason beyond "I don't want to travel that far to compete in a race in which I'll get smoked".
She also gets the benefit of tonnes of brownie points on social media without having to do anything.
Again, I can't blame her. These are the incentive structures in which teenagers now operate.
I'm sure when she's a little older, she will understand the extent of what she is inferring: That athletes from relatively isolated countries (like Australia) shouldn't have the opportunity to compete internationally, as flying to competitions would result in too many co2 emissions. Also, international championships should not be hosted by such countries, as athletes travelling from the Americas and Eurasia would have the same effect.
So, I assume she doesn't use AC . She must read by candlelight. Her only mode of transportation is walking or bicycle. How does she heat her home? Her stance is a lie. As is the stance of all environmental dopes.
Or maybe she just has solar panels and an electric vehicle. We can be as convoluted as we want going as far as to wonder how her clothes were produced, but ultimately she has a stance she is going to stick to. It means should she make the LA olympics, she will have to boat to North America and then take a train to LA.
She can have this stance because there is enough competition in western europe that she can compete at a high level without long distance travel. A runner from Panama, Indonesia, or even Kenya wouldn't be able to be an elite athlete without air travel. Whereas someone in Boston, Tokyo, or New York might be able to do so without even getting in a car.
The brain damage incurred by the enviro-woke Marxism is ruining entire generations. The endgame is nothing less than the collapse of The West in order for authoritarian fascist regimes to triumph. So sad, if it weren't so obviously evil.
Imagine if nobody ever left the UK in the past 1000 years how different the world would have been.
It's no real surprise that a young runner would cite this as a reason for not competing and I can't blame her, given the amount of indoctrination young people are subjected to.
This way, she has a reason beyond "I don't want to travel that far to compete in a race in which I'll get smoked".
She also gets the benefit of tonnes of brownie points on social media without having to do anything.
Again, I can't blame her. These are the incentive structures in which teenagers now operate.
I'm sure when she's a little older, she will understand the extent of what she is inferring: That athletes from relatively isolated countries (like Australia) shouldn't have the opportunity to compete internationally, as flying to competitions would result in too many co2 emissions. Also, international championships should not be hosted by such countries, as athletes travelling from the Americas and Eurasia would have the same effect.
You are making quite a few inferences without knowing anything about her.
So, I assume she doesn't use AC . She must read by candlelight. Her only mode of transportation is walking or bicycle. How does she heat her home? Her stance is a lie. As is the stance of all environmental dopes.
you are describing much of the uk. no ac, lit by candlelight burning sheep oil and warmed by burning cow dung. we call such places 'the north' or 'scotland', or 'wales'. we make up for this lack of civilisatioon with the wonderful culture of the glorious south.
here we bathe in the ac, lighting and warmth provided by our whale killing windmills in the unrecognised seas off of our island.
So, I assume she doesn't use AC . She must read by candlelight. Her only mode of transportation is walking or bicycle. How does she heat her home? Her stance is a lie. As is the stance of all environmental dopes.
95% plus of the UK doesn't have AC. She lives in a passive house on a small holding growing fruit and vegetables so I wouldn't be surprised. I know they use bikes for transport (at least some of the time, I don't know about all of the time).
If 300 people did this, one less plane would ultimately go. It may be a small thing, but it isn't so simple as the plane is going anyway.
One less plane will make as much difference as killing one ant in a colony and thinking you made a difference. 45,000+ flights daily in the US alone, probably over 100,000 worldwide.
Shes 16. Imagine if someone started a thread for every stupid thing you said and did at 16.
I'll admit when I first heard this story I sighed for the same reasons as others, but then found out she was the same athlete who did the mega Turin train journey, so kudos for her on actually following through on this position she takes, as opposed to someone who is all talk.
My question to her would be more about her conflict of interests; I'm not interested in the name calling going on in this thread (why criticise people who actually look to do what we know is right but cant bring ourselves to do?), but how does she hope to continue a career in athletics if she got to an elite level? She will be severely limiting which events she could ever go to (over the next 9yrs so far): > Budapest '23 WC - obv wont qualify atm > Bathurst, AUS '23 XC WC - declined > Paris '24 OLY - obv wont qualify atm > Glasgow '24 Indoor WC - Belgrade i3K standard was 8:49, so maybe a chance if similar standard etc. > Lima '24 U20 WC - nope > Medulin/Pula, Croatia '24 XC WC - yes > Nanjing Indoor WC - nope > Tokyo '25 WC - nope (unless an insane train across Asia + boat) > Tallahassee, US '26 XC WC - nope > LA '28 OLY - nope > Brisbane '32 OLY - nope
This reduces her potential to Diamond Leagues & smaller label track and road events, but I would also add that for National vests in the future there may be a reluctancy by selectors to choose her to go to certain events; are they going to pick her just for her to decline constantly? (no), are they going to ask if she would go before announcing their choices? (no), and hey maybe she just enjoys running and doesn't have plans of sticking with it as an adult, but for now it presents a real obstacle for her adult career (if) at the top of the sport.
Shes 16. Imagine if someone started a thread for every stupid thing you said and did at 16.
I'll admit when I first heard this story I sighed for the same reasons as others, but then found out she was the same athlete who did the mega Turin train journey, so kudos for her on actually following through on this position she takes, as opposed to someone who is all talk.
My question to her would be more about her conflict of interests; I'm not interested in the name calling going on in this thread (why criticise people who actually look to do what we know is right but cant bring ourselves to do?), but how does she hope to continue a career in athletics if she got to an elite level? She will be severely limiting which events she could ever go to (over the next 9yrs so far): > Budapest '23 WC - obv wont qualify atm > Bathurst, AUS '23 XC WC - declined > Paris '24 OLY - obv wont qualify atm > Glasgow '24 Indoor WC - Belgrade i3K standard was 8:49, so maybe a chance if similar standard etc. > Lima '24 U20 WC - nope > Medulin/Pula, Croatia '24 XC WC - yes > Nanjing Indoor WC - nope > Tokyo '25 WC - nope (unless an insane train across Asia + boat) > Tallahassee, US '26 XC WC - nope > LA '28 OLY - nope > Brisbane '32 OLY - nope
This reduces her potential to Diamond Leagues & smaller label track and road events, but I would also add that for National vests in the future there may be a reluctancy by selectors to choose her to go to certain events; are they going to pick her just for her to decline constantly? (no), are they going to ask if she would go before announcing their choices? (no), and hey maybe she just enjoys running and doesn't have plans of sticking with it as an adult, but for now it presents a real obstacle for her adult career (if) at the top of the sport.
*sorry for some of these I forgot she's U.S. based (got swept up in her being British)
1) In general, the "sky if falling, we are near the end" mindset is one that virtually all humans have had throughout history.
2) The decline in traditional religion has been offset by the rise in what i call the 'global warming religion.' People like to have meaning in life.
3) Unlike most of my friends, global warming doesn't concern me too much. There are way more humans enjoying a great life than ever before. SOmething like only 117 billion humans have EVER existed. We have 8 billion right now. The solution is simple, nuclear power adn electric cars and if it still gets hot, then we move north and build more efficient cities. Or we reflect some son.
She takes this issue seriously and recently travelled from UK to Italy by train, involving a 30hour journey. There was no such option for her to travel to Australia, but has remained consistent in her stance.
I admire her for acting on her beliefs but did anyone tell her that the planes she'd have taken to Oz and back will go there anyway even if she's not onboard?
Didn't realize so many Letsrunners worked in Oil and Gas PR. Guess that explains the all the 400k/yr salaries?
I'm sure she's well aware. It's about making a statement. No, she doesn't think she's fixing climate change by skipping a flight. Daft mf. It's about pointing out that with what we know about CO2, it is immoral to keep putting it in the atmosphere unnecessarily. Climate change will kill millions or more and is likely to displace billions. It will be somewhere between the worst thing ever and Armageddon, and I am glad she is willing to make a sacrifice to point that out. Sacrifices will be made, either by human choice or by mother nature. This is the "inconvenient truth." And it's already started. May you meet a hurricane of unusual size.
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