California getting closer to distributing reparations. $223-350K per

What is amusing about reparations is that if you were going to pick an American as most likely to have descended from a slave holder it would be a black American, not a white. Only something like 5% of even southern whites had slaves during slave times and a huge percentage of white ancestors came through Ellis Island as referenced above.

Black Americans, on the other hand:
"And for our African-American male guests, there has been still another astonishing fact revealed about their paternal ancestry — their father's father's father's line — through their y-DNA: A whopping 35 percent of all African-American men descend from a white male ancestor who fathered a mulatto child sometime in the slavery era, most probably
from rape or coerced sexuality. In other words, if we tested the DNA of all of the black men in the NBA, for instance, just over one-third descend from a white second or third great-grandfather."

So according to this guy quoted above:

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Exactly How ‘Black’ Is Black America?

Henry Louis Gates Jr.

Editor's note: For those who are wondering about the retro title of this black history series, please take a moment to learn about historian Joel A. Rogers, author of the 1934 book 100 Amazing Facts About the Negro With Compl...

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One third of black men have rapist white slave holders in their relatively recent family tree. Likely much much higher than any other American ethnic group, including whites.

Can I identify as transracial? Also, California was a free state

I spent two years growing up in Mexico. Most people there are a product of rape centuries ago. Should someone who’s 50% white and 50% black or native pay half reparations to themselves?

My white privilege came when my great- grandfather came to this country in 1915 with a single suitcase. His first job was rip-rapping irrigation canals which may or may not have been a step up from digging ditches. I got up at 5:30 six days a week to do farm labor every summer in high school. My privilege was deciding to go to college and make something of myself.

We already have a reparations program.

We have affirmative action for the top universities.

we have race preferential hiring for government positions.

Most large corporations have preferential hiring and promotion based on diversity quotas.

We have preferential treatment for minorities in government contracting.

We have HubZones which are for businesses in poorer neighborhoods.

Are you saying that Fox invented a story about Governor Newsom's advocacy for reparations? Or do you think that news agencies should not report such a movement endorsed by a governor of the most populous US state?

That's pretty silly and cynical of you. It's easy enough to Google, and see if media other than Fox is reporting this. Many outfits have done so (see below for examples).

This is very likely to happen in California by 2024. I hope Native Americans with attachments to California can do whatever is necessary legally and politically to get their share of this windfall trust fund, which should be more than half of it.

Newsweek:

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California reparations could see Newsom give Black Americans $223k each

Nationally, Black households have a median wealth of $24,100, compared to white households' median wealth of $188,200.

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New York Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/01/business/economy/california-black-reparations.html

Here is Newsom's own website:

gov.ca.gov

Governor Newsom Announces Appointments to First-in-the-Nation Task Force to Study Reparations for African Americans | California Governor

State of California

After signing landmark legislation last year to advance racial justice, the Governor has appointed five individuals with a range of expertise and diverse backgrounds to serve on the state’s task force…

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What life choices are those? If you’ve been in poverty SINCE slavery, you certainly have never had a fair shot.

If blacks had not been slaves, far fewer would be in poverty today.

tell someone Irish (potato famine + living in 'hoods'), Mexican (mexican war), Chinese (railroad laborers), or Nigerian (black immigrants - as an aside, the people I know who are african immigrants hate being called african american) that they'll have to pay for reparations. This will never happen in the 95% non black state of Cali.

Also, africans sold blacks into slavery for europeans to buy

Black people moving to CA, everyone else moving out.

no, it isn’t. That you consider it “very likely” tells us more about your Fox News brainwashing than about the subject. Wish we could hold you accountable for your idiocy in 2024, but by then you’ll have forgotten about it and moved on to the next thing the wingnuts want to distract you with, like a state will pass an anti-trans adoption bill or something.

You are confusing “studying” something with “advocating” for it.

When I first heard the idea of reparations, I thought it was nuts.

But when you look at the facts of slavery and structural racism on almost every level for 400 years, and it makes sense.

Try this, pretend you are a black man in American, considering the history of this country. How does it feel?

Also, realize that Keynesian economics produces a better economy than that tired, discredited beast known at "trickle down" (in reality, an excuse for the rich to raid the treasury at the expense of working Americans.)

To wit,

"Keynesians believe that, because prices are somewhat rigid, fluctuations in any component of spending—consumption, investment, or government expenditures—cause output to change. If government spending increases, for example, and all other spending components remain constant, then output will increase."

Sure. I think many folks support programs that are intentionally crafted to favor black people without calling them “reparations” e.g. student loan forgiveness. Let white millennials be the poster children for the outrage while the idiots don’t notice that actually black people stand to benefit more. There will be some on the left that aren’t satisfied but they are politically marginal (unlike on the right where the lunatics are running the asylum).

Most politicians know that direct cash payments at scale would be political suicide, yes even in California. Hence “studying” it to punt with an offhand answer until people stop asking.

What if you're half white and half black, is it just a wash?

Um, if blacks had not been brought to this country to be slaves, they would still be in Africa and not entitled to anything.

and they would still be living in poverty with only themselves to blame.

I think you are wrong and somewhat obsessed by Fox News brainwashing. This is not some made up Fox story. The governor of California (Newsome) signed state legislation in 2020 establishing this reparations task force, and the task force has been working on a report on reparations since, including whether they are needed, how much is needed, and how it should be paid. They issued a 500 page report on this. Presumably the California governor and legislature is taking all this seriously, which is why I consider some form of reparations to be enacted into law in California by 2024.

You consider this all some fakery by Newsom and the California legislators who created the task force? I think that's a pretty cynical view. A conspiratorial view too -- it would seem to almost impossible for some many political leaders to conjure up a fake task force, fake report, fake legislation, etc.

Give the black kids good education as a chance to get ahead, that should be enough.

That is not what I said. You don’t need a “fake task force” or “fake report” - just a non-binding one.

Why do you feel the need to lie about what are people are saying?