Does waiting until the actual results to come out before you throw out someone's name as a cheater to hundreds of thousands of strangers make sense to you?
Well, if she was DQ'd then I guess that means they determined her result was bogus. That's not evidence against cheating. It could be evidence that they found she cut the course, or it be something else altogether. Either way, OP is validated because the result proved to be inauthentic.
Does waiting until the actual results to come out before you throw out someone's name as a cheater to hundreds of thousands of strangers make sense to you?
Well, if she was DQ'd then I guess that means they determined her result was bogus. That's not evidence against cheating. It could be evidence that they found she cut the course, or it be something else altogether. Either way, OP is validated because the result proved to be inauthentic.
In the above scenario, what purpose did the OP's thread serve?
Well, if she was DQ'd then I guess that means they determined her result was bogus. That's not evidence against cheating. It could be evidence that they found she cut the course, or it be something else altogether. Either way, OP is validated because the result proved to be inauthentic.
In the above scenario, what purpose did the OP's thread serve?
No purpose whatsoever, OP is a loser who is B-O-R-E-D. And a slow AF runner.
Well, if she was DQ'd then I guess that means they determined her result was bogus. That's not evidence against cheating. It could be evidence that they found she cut the course, or it be something else altogether. Either way, OP is validated because the result proved to be inauthentic.
In the above scenario, what purpose did the OP's thread serve?
This is a discussion board. It's a place to discuss things. We discussed this issue and people shared thoughts and information. Some angles were suggested that I hadn't previously considered. Several people found the subject interesting.
Are you looking for some greater purpose in a thread on a discussion board? If so, you may want to consider reassessing where you attempt to find purpose in life.
In the above scenario, what purpose did the OP's thread serve?
This is a discussion board. It's a place to discuss things. We discussed this issue and people shared thoughts and information. Some angles were suggested that I hadn't previously considered. Several people found the subject interesting.
Are you looking for some greater purpose in a thread on a discussion board? If so, you may want to consider reassessing where you attempt to find purpose in life.
I'm wondering why people think it's acceptable to jump the gun and preemptively slander a stranger on a widely-read message board when simply waiting another day would have completely solved the 'case' for you w/o risking damaging an innocent person's reputation.
If you don't think that's an issue, then you are a sociopath.
Did the 10k start at the same time? Maybe she just decided to run/walk that instead and didn’t realize the problem it would cause?
10K started 30 minutes later. Same finish line. Maybe she was given the wrong bib, a 1/2 bib instead of a 10K bib and she did the 10K. There are multiple ways an error could have happened. That's assuming she left after she finished and didn't accept the podium/award. If she didn't go to the podium, I'd 90% think there was an honest mistake or error involved, rather than intentional cheating based on what we know at the moment.
This is the only plausible explanation for which she didn't intentionally cheat. Entered the half, decided she wasn't up to it and ran the 10k course. Maybe she started with the half runners, but cut onto the 10k course.
This is a discussion board. It's a place to discuss things. We discussed this issue and people shared thoughts and information. Some angles were suggested that I hadn't previously considered. Several people found the subject interesting.
Are you looking for some greater purpose in a thread on a discussion board? If so, you may want to consider reassessing where you attempt to find purpose in life.
I'm wondering why people think it's acceptable to jump the gun and preemptively slander a stranger on a widely-read message board when simply waiting another day would have completely solved the 'case' for you w/o risking damaging an innocent person's reputation.
If you don't think that's an issue, then you are a sociopath.
They are presuming the lady in question made off with the small, but tangible, prize for this race. That prize has a cash value of about half a month's rent in California. Hopefully no one harasses her over what seems to be an issue with the timing company or similar, not deliberate cheating.
Remember when the LRC crowd hounded and pestered someone over a minor age-group race result until they committed suicide?
It's almost like maybe we should let this one go.
I don't know how to say this sensitively, but a society that lets people cut corners, and blatantly cheat so they don't die by suicide is not a healthy one.
10K started 30 minutes later. Same finish line. Maybe she was given the wrong bib, a 1/2 bib instead of a 10K bib and she did the 10K. There are multiple ways an error could have happened. That's assuming she left after she finished and didn't accept the podium/award. If she didn't go to the podium, I'd 90% think there was an honest mistake or error involved, rather than intentional cheating based on what we know at the moment.
This is the only plausible explanation for which she didn't intentionally cheat. Entered the half, decided she wasn't up to it and ran the 10k course. Maybe she started with the half runners, but cut onto the 10k course.
It's not only plausible, it's almost certainly the race organization's mistake rather than the runner's mistake. She and her friend each had two bibs after apparently switching entries from the half to the 10K. The organization gave her a second bib without changing what course that bib was for. This was post #37 upthread:
Google Expert wrote:
Just looking at the results, seems like the woman in question switched her entry from the half marathon to the 10K, along with her friend (both from Austin). Both have two bib numbers shown: The friend has one bib under the half marathon with a DNS or DNF (no result shown) and one bib (#452) in the 10K with a result The woman in question has two bibs that are both for the half marathon. One has no result and the second (#453) has the result shown Seems most likely bib #453 was supposed to be for the 10K (just like #452) but there was some kind of error in switching the registration that hadn't yet been sorted out in the preliminary data posted. #453 is also the only bib over 400 that's in the half marathon results.
Remember when the LRC crowd hounded and pestered someone over a minor age-group race result until they committed suicide?
It's almost like maybe we should let this one go.
I don't know how to say this sensitively, but a society that lets people cut corners, and blatantly cheat so they don't die by suicide is not a healthy one.
I'm wondering why people think it's acceptable to jump the gun and preemptively slander a stranger on a widely-read message board when simply waiting another day would have completely solved the 'case' for you w/o risking damaging an innocent person's reputation.
If you don't think that's an issue, then you are a sociopath.
They are presuming the lady in question made off with the small, but tangible, prize for this race. That prize has a cash value of about half a month's rent in California. Hopefully no one harasses her over what seems to be an issue with the timing company or similar, not deliberate cheating.
If they has at least waited to see the award winners posted, they would have realized that it was a complete non-issue.
What is lost by waiting another day? Nothing other than the crack sleuths of LRC would have to delay their feeling of righteous gratification by one day in the interest of not falsely slandering someone on public forum.
They are presuming the lady in question made off with the small, but tangible, prize for this race. That prize has a cash value of about half a month's rent in California. Hopefully no one harasses her over what seems to be an issue with the timing company or similar, not deliberate cheating.
If they has at least waited to see the award winners posted, they would have realized that it was a complete non-issue.
What is lost by waiting another day? Nothing other than the crack sleuths of LRC would have to delay their feeling of righteous gratification by one day in the interest of not falsely slandering someone on public forum.
Seems like that was too much to ask.
You seem to have some issues with healthy perspective. I simply pointed out a strange and somewhat suspicious result, and even said that it wasn't my intention to accuse someone unjustly, so I sought the opinions and assistance of other runners to get to the bottom of the matter. Which appears to have been accomplished. So just what, exactly, is your issue? I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "slander," because nothing in this thread meets the definition of that. If I were the runner in question I wouldn't be bothered in the slightest by anything discussed in the thread so far.
Well, if she was DQ'd then I guess that means they determined her result was bogus. That's not evidence against cheating. It could be evidence that they found she cut the course, or it be something else altogether. Either way, OP is validated because the result proved to be inauthentic.
You people are insane.
You're a hypocrite.
If you believe calling a cheater a cheat could cause them to commit suicide then you must also believe calling an insane person insane could cause them to committ suicide.
The winning female at the Paso Robles half marathon today (with prize including $1500 of wine) was a 42 year old with very mediocre prior results, yet somehow managed to pull off a 1:16 half marathon. The last result I can find for her was a 4:57 marathon in 2017.
I ran the race and there would have been several opportunities for her to leave the course and enter again at a favorable spot near the end. The only timing mat was at the start and finish. There were a couple of photographers on route but she herself is a sports photographer, so might be savvy about that.
If the result is legitimate, I feel bad about posting this, but I find the lack of online results that would support this performance rather suspicious.
In case it helps, I bolded all the spots where you went beyond 'simply pointing out' an unusual result.
You also indicated you would feel bad about creating this thread if your hunches were wrong.
That doesn't seem to be the case now. Instead you are extremely defensive. You knew when you posted this that it was potentially damaging if your implied accusations were wrong, otherwise why would you say you would feel bad? They were wrong and instead you simply double down on defending your post. The same post you said you'd feel bad about.
Just admit you were out of line and move on.
Or you could do the petty thing and argue semantics.
Well this isn't working out how it usually does ...
Has anyone else had a chance to look at her last results? Any other suspicious ones? I wrote a python script and have been checking course photos for any pixels showing the color of shirt she was wearing. No luck so far.
Any word on if anyone saw any bikes or razor scooters parked nearby?
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