No us-born black baseball players in World Series for 1st time since 1950

In my Reply post above, I forgot to include my main point -- Hispanics are WAY more than 7% of MLB players. Where did you get that info?

Now explain the jewish space lasers.

You are right. Hispanics/Latinos make up about 30% of mlb players.

In the 60s and 70s Roberto Clemente would have been considered "black"

Now, he would be considered "latino"

What's the cost to play travel baseball nowadays?

I didn't see any in the last Cornhole, badminton, or figure skating championships either. What's your point? Mods a little help here please--since you delete everything else for no reason.

I was a big fan by means of television as a young kid, Roberto was a Puerto Rican human being to me, not black, Latino, or anything else. Maybe because I had lots of "Latinos" around me he was a normal guy that played baseball very well. Yes, I know that colorism happens in Latin America.

My goal was to start an intersting conversation. I achieved as we have 3 pages of it. I trust the opinions of our visitors. It doesn't all have to come from me.

I have experience with Fastpitch Softball. The cost varies widely for

My daughter was a pretty good Little League player and after being told by friends that she needed to be on a travel team if she wanted to develop the skills needed to make her high school Varsity team -- she was in middle school at the time. This is how we got involved in travel softball.

The team she ended up playing for cost about 1,500 to 2,000 a year to be on the team. It was considered a slightly above middle tier team/organization. This covered tournament fees, uniforms, indoor practice fees, etc. Since she pitched, she started taking pitching lessons once a week which cost about $60 a week for a half hour. It also cost money to drive to games and stay in hotels if it was more than two hours away.

I have heard that elite programs (where many players are D1 prospects) cost 5,000 a year and fly to tournaments around the country -- which would add thousands to base costs.

Umm.. ever heard of Starr Andrews?

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Wow.

Any subject can be turned into accusations of anti-semitism.

From the major world sports black Americans never appear in a world cup final nor NHL final.

Sounds like very few in baseball and there are only about 50% even in their favorite -basketball final winners

Yet so hyped. Weird shyt

I reserve judgment until we have heard from Chico Escuela.

You are completely correct. Certainly, he would have been banned in the color line era -- there are plenty of instances where light-skinned Latinos were allowed in while dark-skinned Latinos had to play in the Negro Leagues.

The average person who gets conspiratorial about identity stuff probably wouldn't call Clemente "African-American" today either, even though he was a Puerto Rican so I don't see how the title doesn't fit him. The people who obsess over identity are, by definition, categorical thinkers, so it's vital to remember what categories are and aren't, that they have as much power as we want them to have and no more, and that they shift over time based on changing social perceptions and choices by the influential about what to emphasize. Part of why Clemente would be classed as "Latino" now is the massive increase in the "Latino" population in America since the 1960s. Latinos have more of a presence, both literally and in the American mind, so that created a shift in how we look at demographic categories and where we put people when we decide we have to put people in a category for one reason or another. I guess it's too bad my team lost triple-digit games instead of making the World Series. We've got some African Americans! Though it's interesting to consider how many more you'd think we had if you only looked at the team photo and didn't learn everyone's name or talk to them and hear some Spanish-language accents.

I would take this info about the first World Series with no African-Americans as a trivia-type stat, whereas many will want to take it as indicative of a problem with baseball that anyone but themselves should be expected to solve immediately. It's certainly interesting to me that black Americans seem to be less interested in playing baseball now than when I was young, and I suspect any bumbling attempt to state a reason for that is likely to slip close to racist thinking pretty quickly -- see the poster upthread who reached for "you need a dad to play catch with." Woof! I also have found it interesting to see the increased interest in baseball and presence in the majors of people from Latin America over my lifetime. I don't think the decreased percentage of black guys or the increased percentage of Latin guys is indicative of anything more dire than happenstance, but your average identitarian would obviously disagree. That's part and parcel of being obsessed with identity though.

Name 10. No cheating.

Jews were instrumental in the destruction of the black nuclear family along with the useful Democrats whose minds they control.

Comp sports in general and comp baseball in particular have made baseball an exclusive sport. It's not enough to be a good athlete, you have to have parents haul you around to camps and tournaments year-round and pretty much give up on junior basketball which is where young black kids spend their time.

Forgive me if I am not outraged.

I also remember when Jet Magazine thought it was so cool that the there was only one white player on the Golden State Warriors when they won their first NBA championship. No outrage there either.

As far as accessibility goes, in this area where future major leaguers almost seem a dime a dozen (same for future NFL and NBA players in FL), there's a baseball field that is always open and that goes unused most of the time, except the occasional adult softball or baseball game, next to two basketball courts in high demand by a nearly all African American crowd every evening and weekends when it's not excessively hot. The soccer fields get more play. There also used to be a good-sized group of people playing football on the field, all African American, on the weekend. So, interest in sport is an important factor and for baseball today, there doesn't seem to be the African American interest any more, but there's plenty in youth track, football, and basketball. For baseball, I see only the organized club teams at dedicated complexes and no pickup baseball at all, in contrast to when I was a kid in the 1970s and 1980s. However, participation in those club teams in baseball turns out to be absurdly high nationwide, even though I rarely see them around.