Shalane Flanagan confirmed as Oregon assistant coach

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Yes - fortunately not all Americans support that banned doper, but way too many do.

Drug cheats out!

Nike took all those names off buildings.

Good for her for keeping it up. Deleting it would be more hypocritical.

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i.e. nothing at all

There’s a due process, and Shelby lost. She is at fault. Shalane blamed the system. Nice girls cheat. Shelby consumed nandrolone that equates to a burrito the size of your arm.

you know I didn't blame Shalane for standing by Shelby like this. But I was perturbed when I found out how they treated Gabriela.

Gabriela had legitimate concerns and was a current member of BTC. How were her concerns dismissed so a drug cheat could have rules bent over backwards for her? It was proof positive to me that there was way more to the story there.

..but Uncle Phil loves winning at any cost.

I am curious as to the strategy that the new coaching staff intends to use in the distance events. Go after high performing American high school athletes in volume? For the kids who value academics, and there are quite a few of them. Oregon won't win over against Stanford, et. al. in those sweepstakes. Go after foreign athletes? This works to a degree, but will Nike be happy with that approach? Plus for most they often need full rides, meaning bigger bets. Oregon has a great tradition so they will likely be competitive, but they want to win national championships. I am curious as to their intended approach. T

This the proper response. When Ajee Wilson tested positive, do these people think Derek Thompson immediately should have cut bait and moved on?

It's natural to stand by someone you are close to and very hard get off that support.

what credentials do you need to be a coach?

it’s not enough to have been a coach at BTC for the last two years, assistant coach at other university 10+ years ago, medalist at the olympics, set American records, win medals in major marathons… elite runner since high school?

WTF… who the eff are you to judge?

obviously, she’s more than qualified.

as for her supporting SH… a supposed drug cheater… at least she’s got the balls to stick with her friend/protégé your family / friend says they didn’t cheat and they are not lying. Things don’t look good but do you believe and side with your friend or abandon them?

Ajee is the wrong comparison for many reasons:

1) She never got banned.

2) AIU never challenged her story.

3) WA never charged her.

4) CAS never ruled on her case.

5) Her steroid's amount wasn't too much for her beef.

6) Her steroid did not have the wrong CIR.

etc. etc. but you know all that, rojo.

And we don't talk about "immediately" after a positive test here either; Shalane's ridiculous PR came after the CAS decision, and she still hasn't corrected it, not even after SFT confirmed the ban and confirmed that Shelby got due process.

You should compare Houlihan's case to Kiprop's + Jeptoo's and Kiptum's cases after their bans were final.

To be fair, Paterno was widely regarded as an upstanding coach when Nike named that after him. It was a totally different situation than Salazar and Armstrong, about whom cheating allegations had been floated for years. And ultimately Paterno was not even brought down for cheating. Yes, covering up the fact that his defensive coordinator was sexually abusing children is much worse than cheating to win a sports contest, but it doesn't really support the Nike celebrates cheater narrative.

Ok, but Shelby went through the due process, an appeal, lost both times, and Shalane continues to keep her posts up. People would be more forgiving to Shalane (maybe?) if she publicly apologized and said I was wrong. Instead she continues to keep those stupid posts up defending Shelby and faulting the system.

she's a mother!

Exactly. I even think most can understand her initial reaction. It's just that a lot of time has passed and new information has come out. At this point it's really hard to continue to justify her behavior. She has had ample opportunity to make a statement and/or distance herself from Shelby and has done nothing. The only logical conclusion at this point is that she supports cheating.

Due Process? Like that has never been wrong.

Shalane is sticking with her belief Shelby was not doping. She probably knows more about what is really going on than the Letsrun Dbags calling her out.

If you think Shalane is dirty, because of her belief that Shelby is innocent, then you are a Letsrun Dbag.

So, there’s this school in Arizona…