I am POOR, so I am THIN. This is how it is supposed to work in nature.

But you just claimed this. Meat is food. Grain and legumes are junk.

Consumption of grain and legumes coincided almost exactly with the development of civilization and social stratification, i.e. the poor people who have to eat them. Rich people don't touch that garbage.

Amusing but a incredible oversimplification... You should try to eat and live healthy no matter what your resources

Being fat is not genetic. Many mistake it to be because families tend to have the same eating habits. I was overweight along with the rest of my family until I realized it wasn’t my genes, it was the fact that we all thought going on a run or lifting weights every few days was enough to be fit, despite eating way too much food, mainly meat and processed carbs, which does nothing beneficial for you if you aren’t working out.

It is your fault if you are fat 99 percent of the time, it is your fault if you are gay 0 percent of the time. For that reason, calling someone out for being fat is valid, being gay isn’t. A physician (who is more intelligent and educated than both of us) will tell you to lose weight if you are overweight. A physician will tell you to stop smoking. A physician will never tell you to stop being gay.

As someone that won state titles year after year in highschool in speech and debate, I’m telling you the person that uses “I’m smarter than you” as an arguing point with ZERO BASIS is never the smartest person in the room and never the person that walks away with a trophy. EVER.

The genetic profiles that are pointed out in this article prove a predisposition, not obesity in it of itself. No one grows up obese. No one that eats a genuinely healthy diet and has regular exercise is obese.

Theres genetic predispositions to nicotine addiction, alcohol addiction, you name it. Hell, my family is full of alcoholics and I’m not one.

Abuse and other aggressive behavior patterns are passed through and can be identified with genetic markers, alcoholism is passed through genes, trauma that results in negative behavior has even been shown to be passed through genes.

Should those that abuse others, r*pe, and abuse substance also not be held accountable because they have the genetic markers that show they have the predisposition for those behaviors?

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/oby.23116

This explains everything…

No poor and rich in nature.

I was at my peak physically when I had no car and was biking and running everywhere. There is no shame in owning nothing, as nothing owns you.

True. If you are going to be a fat slob, at least be a wealthy as Rosie O'Donnell.

I've just started reading your paper, but the first paragraph talks about the rapid increase in obesity and severe obesity have increased in recent years. If obesity is just predetermined by our genetics and there's nothing a person can do to fight it if they got the wrong genes, why are obesity rates changing? Are the genetics of the population changing that rapidly?

This article (quote below) is swinging too wide to the other extreme. It seems to suggest that even willpower is genetic, so we might as well all sit around and do nothing else except sleep, have sex, eat sweets, and watch tv and such. There’s certainly a genetic factor to obesity but there’s also the factor of just resisting stuffing your face with whatever crap is available. Education and upbringing must also have a role.

“But “willpower” is not metaphysical, it is encoded in our cerebral cortex, where conscious thought resides. How the cortex successfully communicates with the hypothalamus varies among individuals. The precise ways that this communication happens is not yet known but is an area of active investigation.”

Physicians are not necessarily smarter than any of you. They just happen to potentially be more educated in very particular areas.

This whole thread is a gross oversimplification of the underlying issues that cause obesity.

I would be curious how many obese people have a mental illness or suffer from varying levels of depression that happen to coincide with our modern way of life. Obese people should be seeing psychiatrists, not weight loss professionals.

attitudes like these are why fat people hate themselves and will never develop the self-esteem necessary to improve their health

Being overweight or obese is not good and never will be. It is unhealthy and very detrimental to a persons health. It is as bad for you as cigarette smoking.

I’ve decided to have a second beer.

Nothing to do with whatever this wanker stuff is you’re on about. I just thought I’d mention it.

Haven't you ever heard of Darwin's Theory?

"Survival of the Fattest"