Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
That's what guys talk about. But you know what, girl gossip is at least equally as bad. Human nature.
Agreed, but if there are other females in your running group it's completely inappropriate to carry on that sort of conversation. If the girls began talking about how the guy that just past looked like he had a big schlong, just imagine how uncomfortable that you would feel, big guy ;)
Someone should be direct with them.
Some clubs are actually small businesses under the hood, so having two losers sexually harassing female members represents a decent liability.
Yeah, I mean they are talking about members of your club which not only makes them feel uncomfortable but is also demeaning for those that are friends with them.
The first comment doesn't seem to be an issue at all. The other comments are troubling. Bottom line is women need to feel safe and equal members of your club.
Fortunately, I was a member of a fairly large local running club for ten years. We had some weird moments, but I can't remember any time a member objectified another club runner. If that happened our core group would have taken action. In this case we would have taken those people aside and had a frank discussion about it. For those the comments were directed at, we would have made sure to let them know we handled it and would have apologized for the behavior of the other party.
I have been in this situation in a different setting and the end result was an overall positive. It is important to check in with the members that the comments were directed at to let them know you have their back. If you do this, they will feel even more a part of the group and most importantly safe.
Bingo Is His Namo wrote:
Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
That's what guys talk about. But you know what, girl gossip is at least equally as bad. Human nature.
Agreed, but if there are other females in your running group it's completely inappropriate to carry on that sort of conversation. If the girls began talking about how the guy that just past looked like he had a big schlong, just imagine how uncomfortable that you would feel, big guy ;)
I'm the only male in my department at work, and I can assure you that women can be far more vulgar and explicit than men. It doesn't bother me though, as none of them would ever make inappropriate comments towards me, and if they did, none of them present any physical threat towards me.
Anyway, this is definitely NOT what guys talk about in public unless they are uncivilized sociopaths.
America's fury wrote:
Bingo Is His Namo wrote:
Agreed, but if there are other females in your running group it's completely inappropriate to carry on that sort of conversation. If the girls began talking about how the guy that just past looked like he had a big schlong, just imagine how uncomfortable that you would feel, big guy ;)
I'm the only male in my department at work, and I can assure you that women can be far more vulgar and explicit than men. It doesn't bother me though, as none of them would ever make inappropriate comments towards me, and if they did, none of them present any physical threat towards me.
Anyway, this is definitely NOT what guys talk about in public unless they are uncivilized sociopaths.
When he says this is what guys talk about. He's is referring to actual men, not emasculated males like you.
Charles Bukowski wrote:
America's fury wrote:
I'm the only male in my department at work, and I can assure you that women can be far more vulgar and explicit than men. It doesn't bother me though, as none of them would ever make inappropriate comments towards me, and if they did, none of them present any physical threat towards me.
Anyway, this is definitely NOT what guys talk about in public unless they are uncivilized sociopaths.
When he says this is what guys talk about. He's is referring to actual men, not emasculated males like you.
Is this satire? Have you been satire the whole time?
hunter wheres the coke wrote:
Charles Bukowski wrote:
When he says this is what guys talk about. He's is referring to actual men, not emasculated males like you.
Is this satire? Have you been satire the whole time?
To someone like you, I'm sure normal male behavior is unbelievable and unreal.
You need to call people out. Next time said male is near female help him out.
Is this the one you bet me $50 you could nail.
Here’s your chance, time to stop talking to us about her and talk to her.
Don’t forget to provide her with the thing you said you have and she wants.
Make sure she hears.
Charles Bukowski wrote:
America's fury wrote:
I'm the only male in my department at work, and I can assure you that women can be far more vulgar and explicit than men. It doesn't bother me though, as none of them would ever make inappropriate comments towards me, and if they did, none of them present any physical threat towards me.
Anyway, this is definitely NOT what guys talk about in public unless they are uncivilized sociopaths.
When he says this is what guys talk about. He's is referring to actual men, not emasculated males like you.
There’s nothing masculine about the subjects of the original post. Quite the contrary.
Charles Bukowski wrote:
hunter wheres the coke wrote:
Is this satire? Have you been satire the whole time?
To someone like you, I'm sure normal male behavior is unbelievable and unreal.
Yeah it can be a bit unreal. How do you justify being awful to women? What goes on in your brain?
Sounds like the way to deal with is a nice round of high fives.
HobbyRunn3r wrote:
Less and less people are showing up for the local club runs. I'm not the organizer of the runs but I noticed that the behavior of 2-3 male runners may be a factor in the decline of the club. What happens is that somehow they manage to make inappropriate remarks about female runners . Just a few examples of remarks:
- About two female runners that were passing by (running) during the group warmpup: "those two are running for a few years but never join us".
- About a female running solo from the opposite direction: "(turning the head to look at her) that girl has a nice a....".
- About a female from the group (running 4-5m in front): "I want to see her wearing only compression socks".
When I moved to a new city a number of years ago, I decided to join some group runs. I have never been much of a group run guy. Typically I train solo or with a few runners that are about my speed. Anyway, what I immediately noticed is that each running group had its own personality. One group was all cross fit folks, another was basically the board of the local running club plus a few others, one was mostly women who talked loudly the whole run and stopped for water and bathroom breaks frequently, one was hipster, young dudes who brought home baked vegan snacks to each run (and smoked weed after ), one was essentially a dating singles group.... You get the idea. If a running group isn't your speed or style, go to a different one or start your own. Don't complain, just recognize it isn't your scene and move on. I will say I joined one group, that I didn't particularly like socially but they were about my speed and showed me trails that I was afraid to run by myself. Now I run them by myself and I'm thankful for the dudes who showed me the way, even if I don't hang out with them anymore.
Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
That's what guys talk about. But you know what, girl gossip is at least equally as bad. Human nature.
Yeah I think the second sentence here is what is often overlooked. Girls can be straight up nasty talking to eachother about guys, and about how they use men sexually. No examples of this are ever made public because in reality all humans, male and female, enjoy sexuality and “being bad”, and nobody wants women to stop acting promiscuously. Unfortunately liberals will always demonize this behavior when exhibited by a male, calling it a misuse of power or whatever the rhetoric of the day is, while never failing to justify or completely ignore the same or worse behavior from a woman.
idiots everywhere wrote:
I, as a female, would also not show up to this club after a 'nice ass' comment or the compression socks thing.
It is also apparent on these forums that men are just deranged sex addicts that can't keep a thought to themselves and feel entitled to subjugate everyone else to their wild fantasies.
Enjoy your loneliness.
I’m with you. Wtf are these responses? First it was “That’s just locker room talk”, and now when’s its actually directed at someone, now it’s “Be a man, this happens everywhere, you’re overreacting.” Sad state for men rn. All these ppl probably feel they were born too late. Wish they could go back to the times of the alpha male who could say whatever, do whatever, sexually assault whatever with little to no consequences because that was just the times. Your wives and children secretly hate you, can’t wait to get away from you and barely call and visit because you act like this.
A guy tried this at my group run once. I punched him so hard in the stomach he never came back. Problem solved.
Bingo Is His Namo wrote:
Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:
That's what guys talk about. But you know what, girl gossip is at least equally as bad. Human nature.
Agreed, but if there are other females in your running group it's completely inappropriate to carry on that sort of conversation. If the girls began talking about how the guy that just past looked like he had a big schlong, just imagine how uncomfortable that you would feel, big guy ;)
Yes context of the situation is important and I should have mentioned that. If it's all men/boys or all women/girls then it's usually a free for all, doesn't matter whether a few in the group may like it or not. But yes people should at least be more self aware of who's around and have the ability to realize not everyone wants to hear chatter which should be reserved for a more "off the record" setting. But hey some people, primarily narcissists, are full of themselves can't help themselves. And yes, perhaps if someone has an issue with it they should address it directly. People are afraid of confrontation though. Resorting to a message board and complaining doesn't achieve much.
the beagle wrote:
Charles Bukowski wrote:
When he says this is what guys talk about. He's is referring to actual men, not emasculated males like you.
There’s nothing masculine about the subjects of the original post. Quite the contrary.
Is that a joke?
corn pie wrote:
RunRagged wrote:
"Hey buddy, that's inappropriate. Enjoy your sex thoughts, but keep 'em to yourself."
Isn't it a bit of a giant leap to presume, that were I to admit I like someone's butt, that that means i want to have sex with them. If I say, "she has a nice butt" that really is not the same as "I bet she would be good at sex", which is of course different than "I want to try." You "moralists" are always making the most extreme leaps imaginable and blaming us for things we havent even done.
No. It's not a giant leap. When someone says "I want to see her naked," we know what that means.
pigs - wrote:
A guy tried this at my group run once. I punched him so hard in the stomach he never came back. Problem solved.
This is the fantasy of every emasculated, non-threatening, compliant, servile simp-boy.
Most guys talk like that, most guys also have the sense not to let it be overheard by someone who they don't know well enough that won't be offended.
As others have noted, talk to them privately, be polite but firm, they will either stop the immature comments or stop coming, problem solved.
If you come at them confrontationally, it could spiral in ways you can't anticipate.