coach wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
Let's have a gentleman's bet.
I say the Biden admin will pick someone Jewish to replace Breyer.
You say it will be a black women.
I will give you anyone who is not Jewish.
Loser agrees to not post for one full week.
What say ye?
I'll take the bet but I know that if you lose you'll just come up with a different screen name.
You are a man of little honor to make such a comment.
But the bet is on. I will not lose.
samcallan wrote:
Biden did promise a Black woman so I do not see how he cannot follow through on that without huge backlash. It looks like a recent DC court of appeals Black woman was confirmed 53-44.
Just a point of clarification: Ketanji Brown Jackson is on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, referred to typically as just the D.C. Circuit. This is the second most important court in the country, after the Supreme Court, as it oversees the majority of litigation about administrative agencies, as well as most separation of powers cases.
The D.C. Court of Appeals is the equivalent of a state supreme court, only for the District of Columbia. It oversees stuff like a fast food joint terminating its lease too early. It is not a very important court at all.
Vladimir Poopskin aka Barack Obama wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
I will take that bet with any and all comers.
I say the nominee will be Jewish.
I'd be surprised if it wasn't. Since RBG died, there are only 3 left on the Supreme Court, counting crypto Sotomayor. Then again, with 2/3 of Biden's cabinet Jewish, maybe the Supreme Court doesn't matter as much now.
Dem SCOTUS nominees over the past nearly 60 years (since August 2016): Goldberg, Fortas, Thurgood Marshall, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotamayor, Kagan, and Garland.
carmine9 wrote:
Vladimir Poopskin aka Barack Obama wrote:
I'd be surprised if it wasn't. Since RBG died, there are only 3 left on the Supreme Court, counting crypto Sotomayor. Then again, with 2/3 of Biden's cabinet Jewish, maybe the Supreme Court doesn't matter as much now.
Dem SCOTUS nominees over the past nearly 60 years (since August 2016): Goldberg, Fortas, Thurgood Marshall, Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotamayor, Kagan, and Garland.
Oops, August 1962, not 2016
I'll add that she will almost certainly be the nominee. She went to Harvard for undergrad and law school, was on law review, clerked for Justice Breyer, and has been a federal judge on the top district court and the top appellate court in the country.
joed|rt wrote:
Disciple of The Watch wrote:
Imagine how bananas a country is when the two primary job qualifications for one of the most important positions in government are publicly announced to be (1) the person's race and (2) the person's gender. Things people would normally consider to be important qualifications, like talent, awards, and experience are secondary.
What kind of country would behave like that? One trying to damage itself?
First time bar exam pass rates by race 2020:
White - 88%
Asian - 80%
Native American - 78%
Hispanic - 76%
Black - 66%
Law school enrollment demographics by race 2018:
White - 61.25%
Asian - 6.17%
Native American - 0.73%
Hispanic - 12.8%
Black - 8.11%
2 or more ethnicities - 3.49%
Median LSAT score by race (there is a linear relationship between LSAT scores and bar exam pass rates, and attrition is significantly higher among those with an LSAT score under 150 than above):
White - 153 (5% attrition rate 1L)
Latino - 146 (9% attrition rate 1L)
Black - 142 (11% attrition rate 1L)
If you combine the Bar exam pass rates, the enrollment stats and attrition stats, the demographics of actual lawyers hitting the system today would be about 72% white, 7% Asian, 13% Hispanic, 1% Native American, and 7% Black. Thus, the construction of the supreme court as it currently exists is not all that different than one should reasonably expect (eventually, the court will likely be majority female as they started outnumbering men in law schools in 2015 and statistically get better grades than men).
You think SCOTUS nominees are chosen on merit?
Didn't realize there was already a long thread on this.
Smart move for Breyer. The Liberals learned a lot from the RBG situation and I am sure there have been a lot of people putting pressure on him to step down while they have the White House and the Senate. I think they are seeing the writing on the wall that there is a good chance that they will lose the Senate in November and will no longer be able to have a 100% guarantee of confirmation. If he waits until after November, Biden may find his nominees get turned down one after another until 2024. At that point, there is a possibility of a 7-2 situation. Biden will get a rare and much needed victory here.
Ultimately, this will not change the composition of the court.
Next in line by age are Clarence Thomas (73), Sam Alito (71), Sonia Sotomayor (67), and John Roberts (66).
whambulance wrote:
Cult of the jamin wrote:
It would be great if ole Sleepy Joe and his handlers pick the most qualified person for the opening.
However, this will not happen. It is 100% certain that they will choose someone solely based on their race, gender and sexual orientation. Also, they must be a card carrying member of the socialist/communist party.
If it is a PC nominee, I hope that person is put through the ringer every bit as badly as Judge Kavanaugh was.
Anyone other than a white male is a "PC nominee", right?
Wel,l, if he'd said "I will appoint the most qualified person who shares my political leanings and can be confirmed" and the appointed someone other than a white male - fine. But when you say "I will appoint a black female". Uhh PC nominee.
coach wrote:
This will be fun watching the politics play out.
Hope this political hack doesn't let the door hit his A$$ on the way out. Absolutely can't stand the judges who have weaponized the court for the political agenda as opposed to upholding the constitution.
The one positive thing I can say about Breyer is at least he is not as bad as Sotomayor.
Oh oh for me.
WH says it will keep it's pledge of naming a Black woman.
Can they find a Jewish one?
Boom goes the Dynamite wrote:
whambulance wrote:
Anyone other than a white male is a "PC nominee", right?
Ask Clarence Thomas. The Dem's hated him from the beginning.
Yeah, the Kavanaugh interview was very trying. All those hours watching a world class neurotic squirm, sniff, and whine like a schoolboy caught with booze and cigarettes? Candidate for SCOTUS on the grill for assaulting a woman and not able to control one little bit of composure. Worst interview I've ever seen. He wouldn't have made the final 6 candidates for Dog Catcher.
carmine9 wrote:
Oh oh for me.
WH says it will keep it's pledge of naming a Black woman.
Can they find a Jewish one?
The only way I can support this is if Biden announces Kamala as the justice to replace Breyer promotes a moderate like Manchin to VP then promises to immediately resign.
carmine9 wrote:
Oh oh for me.
WH says it will keep it's pledge of naming a Black woman.
Can they find a Jewish one?
Well someone here will call her a cryptoJew
The other five candidates for dog catcher were:
Mark Judge
Tobin
Squee
P.J.
Donkey Dong Doug
She is a lawyer bro... don't be mad
coach wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
Oh oh for me.
WH says it will keep it's pledge of naming a Black woman.
Can they find a Jewish one?
Well someone here will call her a cryptoJew
From Jpost:
It doesn't hurt that Sotomayor, 54, is a poster child for strong Jewish-Hispanic relations. In 1986, when she was in private legal practice, she joined one of the first young leadership tours of Israel sponsored by Project Interchange, which is affiliated with the American Jewish Committee. Sotomayor so enjoyed the country - its immigrant culture, its popular music influenced heavily by Jewish immigrants from Argentina and Brazil - that she made a return visit in 1996 when she was a federal judge, and recently joined a Project Interchange US-Israel forum on immigration. In the process, she formed a lifelong friendship with Project Interchange founder Debbie Berger and her husband, Paul, who attended her swearing-in as a Manhattan appeals court judge in 1998. "She enjoyed Israel not just from an intellectual perspective, she liked the music and the people," Paul Berger told JTA. Richard Foltin, the legislative director for the AJC, said her background naturally played a role in how the Jewish community would welcome her.
Perhaps this is why this is said about Justice Sotomayor.
Serious question. How many people are well qualified for SCOTUS?
I would guess probably a dozen.
The idea there is ONE most qualified person is beyond silly.
HOCUS SCOTUS wrote:
Didn't realize there was already a long thread on this.
Smart move for Breyer. The Liberals learned a lot from the RBG situation and I am sure there have been a lot of people putting pressure on him to step down while they have the White House and the Senate. I think they are seeing the writing on the wall that there is a good chance that they will lose the Senate in November and will no longer be able to have a 100% guarantee of confirmation. If he waits until after November, Biden may find his nominees get turned down one after another until 2024. At that point, there is a possibility of a 7-2 situation. Biden will get a rare and much needed victory here.
Ultimately, this will not change the composition of the court.
Next in line by age are Clarence Thomas (73), Sam Alito (71), Sonia Sotomayor (67), and John Roberts (66).
It's only longer because like all threads carmine9 turns it into a $#1t show. The other thread is actually better since he has not been on it yet.
800 dude wrote:
samcallan wrote:
Biden did promise a Black woman so I do not see how he cannot follow through on that without huge backlash. It looks like a recent DC court of appeals Black woman was confirmed 53-44.
Just a point of clarification: Ketanji Brown Jackson is on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, referred to typically as just the D.C. Circuit. This is the second most important court in the country, after the Supreme Court, as it oversees the majority of litigation about administrative agencies, as well as most separation of powers cases.
The D.C. Court of Appeals is the equivalent of a state supreme court, only for the District of Columbia. It oversees stuff like a fast food joint terminating its lease too early. It is not a very important court at all.
She is qualified (just as Barrett was qualified). They should approve her. It will be politically in their interest to do so. No sense in giving the left horrible optics of having white males grill a black female. They should complement her, talk up her qualifications, etc. mention how they may not agree with her ideologically on some items, but ultimately approve her. The Republicans are going to run away with the next couple elections with Biden effing things up, so the best way to reenforce that we are the party of Lincoln (for a nominee who will get approved regardless and would only be replacing an existing liberal justice) is to play as nice as possible.
Wuzzle Wuzzle4 wrote:
Serious question. How many people are well qualified for SCOTUS?
I would guess probably a dozen.
The idea there is ONE most qualified person is beyond silly.
It's a lot more than a dozen.
No one was saying there is ONE most qualified. Strawman.
Making a particular race the primary qualification for nominating a qualified Supreme Court candidate is a beyond silly. You would agree with that statement, if you were being reasonable.