I don't see the date. If that is before Olympics, it is meaningless because Nuguse would have been replaced with Engels. Is it the post Olympics list? Does it say DNS for Nuguse?
I don't see the date. If that is before Olympics, it is meaningless because Nuguse would have been replaced with Engels. Is it the post Olympics list? Does it say DNS for Nuguse?
Master Of Lolly wrote:
Grassrunner wrote:
Another analogy- if you are on the Yankees roster you are a Yankee regardless of whether you actually got play time.
Exactly. Also, you definitely are still a soldier if you have been deployed overseas, but didn't have to enter any battles or missions. It is the qualification and readiness, that gives you this status, not the participation itself.
Nuguses name on the starting list of an OG 1500m Heat, his presence in Tokyo wearing US uniform and willingness to participate is enough to be called an olympian.
Really? Which Olympic event did he compete in? He's an Olympian according to you so it should be super easy for you to tell us which event he actually competed in.
versy tile wrote:
I don't see the date. If that is before Olympics, it is meaningless because Nuguse would have been replaced with Engels. Is it the post Olympics list? Does it say DNS for Nuguse?
Think simpler. Engels didn't qualify, therefore has not been on any olympic lists. Nuguse did though, got himself in the starting list, got his uniform, flew to Tokyo and did not run because of pain.
Now if he would have stayed home and given his spot to Engels, which would have been put on a starting list, then yes, Nuguse would not have been an olympian.
AP5000 wrote:
Really? Which Olympic event did he compete in? He's an Olympian according to you so it should be super easy for you to tell us which event he actually competed in.
He didn't have to compete. He only had to be a competitor, which is proved by his name on the starting list.
You can be a competitor, enter the competition, but then not compete.
The Millrose entry lists are out. I guess if somebody calls them today and says they are pulling out because their appearance fee isn't high enough, they can forever claim to be a Millrose competitor.
This is truly the worst argument anyone has ever made on LR. Obviously he did not compete in an event and is not an Olympian. He made the Olympics team. Lots of people make Olympic teams and never participate for many reasons. They are not Olympians and I highly doubt they would call themselves Olympians (because they didn't compete compared to their counterparts who actually did).
Futhermore, I don't see his name on any start list. Where are you seeing this list on any kind of official site?
https://ibb.co/RNCVRtyAP5000 wrote:
This is truly the worst argument anyone has ever made on LR. Obviously he did not compete in an event and is not an Olympian. He made the Olympics team. Lots of people make Olympic teams and never participate for many reasons. They are not Olympians and I highly doubt they would call themselves Olympians (because they didn't compete compared to their counterparts who actually did).
Futhermore, I don't see his name on any start list. Where are you seeing this list on any kind of official site?
He could have entered the race and jogged, but what's the point of that? You would still find a reason to hate on him. Dude was doing everything to heal in time and hoped to be able to start all the way untill the day of the race. That's an olympian for me.
I have always liked him. He would be an Olympian if he had started the race and dropped out.
Yes, he would in that case. But he didn't and he is listed as DNS. No one say they were in the NYC or Boston marathon who didn't run the actual race. End of discussion.
Words have meaning. Ask a 5th grader to provide their definition of an Olympian. Ask an athlete to provide their definition. Ask an English teacher to provide their definition. 95% of the population would agree on the definition. You are in the minority.
Countries can enter only athlete if he does not meet the standard. Would Donald Trump be an Olympian if the US entered him in the 1500?
He wasn't hurt. Lights too bright, moment too big.
Also heard he knew he was injured a week before....
Did he go? I always thought that he did not make the trip.
I'll throw my hobby jogger $.02 in and piggy back off another comment. If I show up to boston and don't run, I would be embarrassed and disingenuous to call myself a boston marathoner. You can make up what ever injury you want for DNS. Maybe you were just too scared or nervous to toe the line. That would make it even worse to call your self an Olympian or boston marathoner. That kind of sh!t works for Instagram but in the real world you have no clout. 10's of thousands of people qualify for boston but don't go. That doesn't make you a boston marathoner. It's the people dumb enough to plop down $1k for a hotel and $250 for registration and then hobby jog their ass to Boston that can call themselves Boston marathoners.
versy tile wrote:
Words have meaning. Ask a 5th grader to provide their definition of an Olympian. Ask an athlete to provide their definition. Ask an English teacher to provide their definition. 95% of the population would agree on the definition. You are in the minority.
Fortunately we don't have to ask anyone. We can refer the dictionary that houses the meaning of words. The Oxford Dictionary says "A competitor in an Olympic Games." There is no asterisk for injury or any other reason. Anyone can feel free to find another official source that states a different definition.
I know an Olympic Trials champion from 1980 who didnt compete at the games because of the boycott and he considers himself an Olympian.
Food for thought.
Did you see the thread about the children who consider themselves to be cats?
Flavian wrote:
Also heard he knew he was planning a fake injury a week before....
FIFY…
His worldathletics.org profile shows he was a DNS at the Olympics. So, I think that qualifies him as an Olympian. All the other opinions don’t matter because worldathletics.org trumps everyone.