Jacob Ingebrigtsen wins Euro cross, 30:15, Julien Wanders 63rd, 33:13

Jon Arne Glomsrud wrote:

I am an orienteering runner and I wonder if XC shoeware is not developed enough for muddy courses like that. We are used to that in orienteering and long spikes is not the best option. Runners might have benefitted using more orienteering shoes, like from inov-8. Long spikes really don't work in mud, but a rough rubber sole works better. In orienteering we have spiked rough rubber soles.

Nike athletes, some at least, had prototype dragonflys suited for XC running.

I absolutely was not pointing the finger at Kenya and trying to criticize their healthcare system but the reality is that healthcare in Kenya is not on par with most developed countries in that staffing levels are often inadequate and facilities are often not top-notch although the basic demands are met and for example people in the Rift Valley who have problems which demand specialist care often have to travel to Nairobi or even to Europe to get that specialization care which they can’t get in the Rift Valley.

if you are healthy there are no problems and you can live a healthy life in Kenya but if you have some chronic problem it can be complicated for mzungus, as you might be expected to pay through the nose for specialist care as happened a few months ago when a westerner was hospitalized Nairobi and was prevented from leaving the hospital because he could not pay the bills which kept on going up day by day to amount to thousands and thousands of dollars as he was on an oxygen machine.

Westerners who choose to live in Kenya for long periods of time would do well to have some kind of health insurance plan or back door plan should things go pear-shaped. Just saying.

Just one example in Kenya of the way things can go pear-shaped if you are unable to pay your bill.

Once again, not dissing Kenya but just pointing out that it would be better to have a healthcare plan to avoid running into this type of scary situation.

Yeah, you reminded me that he climbed in his winter training, it would be interesting to know average speed and slope.

Lactate is clearly higher than the threshold, but it is to be seen if it remains in the aerobic field wanting to develop the most extreme part of the aerobic range that is the Vo2max, with a rhythm closer to its 3000 meters corrected then with slope. In Italy, in winter, Giorgio Rondelli developed the Vo2max with climbs of 300-400 meters with Cova and Panetta.

Jon Arne Glomsrud wrote:

Runners might have benefitted using more orienteering shoes, like from inov-8. Long spikes really don't work in mud, but a rough rubber sole works better. In orienteering we have spiked rough rubber soles.

+1. Likewise for most members of my cross-country based club in the UK. We have famously muddy courses. Also, if you step on gravel or stones unexpectedly in spikes, it sucks, but rubber is fine. Inov8 Mudclaw is a wonderful shoe.