Work Hard / Play Hard is code for “we are going to work
you to death and browbeat you. We will dump extraordinary amounts of work on you and expect you to finish it in an impossible timeframe. But you know you, we’ve got a ping pong table and a keg in the office, so you should be grateful to work with cool people like us.”
salt & vinegar wrote:
What does being female have to do with it?
There is an implication, through many of these posts, that females have more bargaining/complaining power at work, and perhaps abuse that or throw their weight around.
Show me some actual evidence that this is the case, not just all of your anecdotes.
I could rattle off dozens of anecdotes about how males have abused their power in the workplace. Anecdotes are only so useful, and often perpetuate stereotypes that are not helpful and in fact counterproductive.
Again, if this is going to be about males vs females, show me real evidence.
Good post. I feel bad for the OP. Losing a job sucks.
But I thought, "Why is he mentioning her sex? It should just say "co-worker lied and got me fired." I think we as a society focus way too much on someone's sex/race. Focus on the individual action - not the label.
rojo wrote:
Good post. I feel bad for the OP. Losing a job sucks.
But I thought, "Why is he mentioning her sex? It should just say "co-worker lied and got me fired." I think we as a society focus way too much on someone's sex/race. Focus on the individual action - not the label.
because when you are making up stores for clicks, sexism helps. Only shock is we didnt get a black woman.
picked wrote:
Imagine a female whining and complaining about unexpected work and stressed to the point of tears.
"Everybody calm down, we will get through this", I said.
Then the female looks back at me in disgust.
Before long there were meetings, reenactments and written exchanges over what happened.
I’m sorry that happened to you. A lot of the more restrictive HR rules are scam, often to advance women over men.
lose lose wrote:
I agree with lawyer up. I disagree that it’s almost for a sure a losing battle.
Nearly 1/3 people who file a wrongful termination lawsuit win with an average settlement of about $40k.
So it’s not a slam dunk, but it’s decent odds
Wow, imagine winning the lawsuit and getting a settlement! Double the money!
Now imagine attempting to give legal advice without understanding that!
I once told a female co worker I didn't like her perfume and next thing you know I got passed over for a big promotion and had to transfer to a different branch. All over some stanky perfume from metropolitan Orlando made from real pine.
lose lose wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
It's almost for sure a losing battle, because really, a company can get rid of people for almost any reason they wish. I've seen it many times. Company has a layoff and gets rid of undesirables. Company has a mini restructuring and gets rid of a specific job (person).
However, if you feel you were fired unjustly, lawyer up. Co-workers can't go making up lies about you. You'll probably lose any lawsuit, but who knows.
I agree with lawyer up. I disagree that it’s almost for a sure a losing battle.
Nearly 1/3 people who file a wrongful termination lawsuit win with an average settlement of about $40k.
So it’s not a slam dunk, but it’s decent odds
Wrongful termination suits are more likely to succeed if you are a woman or black. If you are a white male, not that much hope.
rojo wrote:
salt & vinegar wrote:
What does being female have to do with it?
There is an implication, through many of these posts, that females have more bargaining/complaining power at work, and perhaps abuse that or throw their weight around.
Show me some actual evidence that this is the case, not just all of your anecdotes.
I could rattle off dozens of anecdotes about how males have abused their power in the workplace. Anecdotes are only so useful, and often perpetuate stereotypes that are not helpful and in fact counterproductive.
Again, if this is going to be about males vs females, show me real evidence.
Good post. I feel bad for the OP. Losing a job sucks.
But I thought, "Why is he mentioning her sex? It should just say "co-worker lied and got me fired." I think we as a society focus way too much on someone's sex/race. Focus on the individual action - not the label.
The point of the post is the label - or it wouldn't have been included.
Jayhawk wrote:
An African American female employee went to HR claiming I had made a racial slur in her presence. Fortunately, another African American female employee was present when I had made the comment which was made in relations to the woman's employment position and not her race. She backed me up with HR and I was cleared of any wrong doing. The woman who made the false allegation was none other than Harris Faulkner, yes that Harris Faulkner. She was making false employment claims against every manager in our workplace in an effort to get out of her contract.
you a fox news employee??
Mikeh33 wrote:
picked wrote:
Imagine a female whining and complaining about unexpected work and stressed to the point of tears.
"Everybody calm down, we will get through this", I said.
Then the female looks back at me in disgust.
Before long there were meetings, reenactments and written exchanges over what happened.
I’m sorry that happened to you. A lot of the more restrictive HR rules are scam, often to advance women over men.
Most HR are run by women as well so they are gatekeepers. I think the rules are usually fine in HR, in most companies, but I can see how female-based networks can advance each other and take advantage of that situation.
Armstronglivs wrote:
rojo wrote:
Good post. I feel bad for the OP. Losing a job sucks.
But I thought, "Why is he mentioning her sex? It should just say "co-worker lied and got me fired." I think we as a society focus way too much on someone's sex/race. Focus on the individual action - not the label.
The point of the post is the label - or it wouldn't have been included.
Ah, to be this ignorant.
It's called privilege and power. Women have it. If some regular Joe Blow complains about his coworkers you think anyone cares? But if a woman says someone made her uncomfortable it's the end of the world, someone's getting fired. Please educate yourselves on privilege.
I am sure that there were times in my life when being a white male helped me, but now is not one of them. If push comes to shove, you will not be the one who is going to be believed in a "he said, she said" scenario in the absence of credible evidence to the contrary. Perhaps this is karma, but it does not lead non-privileged white males to want to vote Democrat to encourage progressive policies that do not benefit them personally.
I mentioned she was a woman because the two bosses who met with me and didn't believe I was telling the truth were also both women. So a woman lied to management, and then two more women were the ones who made the decision to fire me. Again, ZERO evidence of it from any source, and it wasn't even something extreme... the girl claimed I called her fat and made some other comments about her body, which I would never do to anyone as i'm pretty introverted. SO yeah, it felt like me being a guy was why I wasn't believed. Also, I've had zero issues with this company in the past, the worst "talking-to" i've ever had with management was about ringing a customer up incorrectly once.
The attorneys that represent you in situations like this probably work on retainer and many such firms will conduct a 30 minute in-brief to determine if your case has merit or not. I've been on the other side of many, many restructurings and was caught in one myself last year. What is possible depends on your current status and your companies aggressiveness in fighting such claims. If you have been offered a package and you have not agreed yet to the package you have more leverage. So, what I would suggest is that you do a little research on the top legal firms in your area that handle employee rights. It is very common for a company to sweeten a severance package to avoid litigation or the threat of litigation. Larger companies though, if they don't settle quickly, may want to fight a case in which case you are not going to win. And yes, many companies love an economic downturn because it allows them to tackle restructuring actions which would otherwise not be acceptable targeting individuals who, for one reason or another, stick out
OozmaKappa wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
The point of the post is the label - or it wouldn't have been included.
Ah, to be this ignorant.
It's called privilege and power. Women have it. If some regular Joe Blow complains about his coworkers you think anyone cares? But if a woman says someone made her uncomfortable it's the end of the world, someone's getting fired. Please educate yourselves on privilege.
Please educate yourself on misogyny.
but............ wrote:
Wrongful termination suits are more likely to succeed if you are a woman or black. If you are a white male, not that much hope.
I do know of an instance of where a white guy in his mid-50's was terminated from his job at a Digital Agency for being too "out of touch" and using dated methods to complete his work. He hired an attorney and they found out that the guy had a pretty spotless track record he had no prior issues. They filed an age discrimination lawsuit....and THEY WON. I think the guy got $300K.
Get s lawyer who can get U tested for drug use - even smoking marijuana will show in a forensic hair
Follicle test. Even if you don't get your
Job back(why would you want to work in a toxic place like that?) You can hit them with damages and atty
Fees. Do not allow that on your record or you will never work anywhere. Guess what happens тo a personnel officer _,who terminayes w/out proof and a liar
Who can cost a company significant
Dollar and expose them to scandal which they pay ads to cutivate a likeable image. Good luck
rojo wrote:
salt & vinegar wrote:
What does being female have to do with it?
There is an implication, through many of these posts, that females have more bargaining/complaining power at work, and perhaps abuse that or throw their weight around.
Show me some actual evidence that this is the case, not just all of your anecdotes.
I could rattle off dozens of anecdotes about how males have abused their power in the workplace. Anecdotes are only so useful, and often perpetuate stereotypes that are not helpful and in fact counterproductive.
Again, if this is going to be about males vs females, show me real evidence.
Good post. I feel bad for the OP. Losing a job sucks.
But I thought, "Why is he mentioning her sex? It should just say "co-worker lied and got me fired." I think we as a society focus way too much on someone's sex/race. Focus on the individual action - not the label.
Rojo - I think the point the OP was making is that, in our present culture, only a woman would be able to get a man fired for something he allegedly said, when their were no witnesses at all and no real record of it. A man in a similar situation would be looked at more critically.
DGAF
ESAD
Women are the worst!