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nobrainer wrote:
Jewett was responsible for falling so of course he shouldn't be allowed in the final.
Are you joking? Amos stepped on Jewett's heel from behind, clear as day. Jewett was not changing his line at all at the time.
If Amos is put in the final and not Jewett, World Athletics is truly a corrupt joke.
Let's see if American coaching staff can do their job and get him in.
Why is there even a thread for this? Amos just ran 2:40 for dead last in the semifinals, absolutely zero chance he medals.
typical LRC doosh wrote:
Why is there even a thread for this? Amos just ran 2:40 for dead last in the semifinals, absolutely zero chance he medals.
???
Are you joking? Amos stepped on Jewett's heel from behind, clear as day. Jewett was not changing his line at all at the time.
If Amos is put in the final and not Jewett, World Athletics is truly a corrupt joke.
Let's see if American coaching staff can do their job and get him in.[/quote]
No, Amos didn't STEP on his heel. But Jewetts heel hit Amos knee from what I've seen in slowmo. Normally when someone trips another guy it's from stepping on their spikes with their own feet while going forward. This was a different case where Amos knee (can't extend as much forward as a foot can) got contact with Jewett's knee. I don't know if WA deems it that Jewetts heelkick is so extensive that he's at fault (???) or what, tbh I don't think anyone was at fault. Jewett had a long backkick and I don't think Amos was in his space, when you look at the replays from the perspective from the stands in the curve they are very far apart. Both or no one would be more fair.
I rewatched it and paused it several times. Amos is getting passed at that point and then Jewett trips. It sure seems like Amos is startled by the pass which caused him to clip Jewett. However, I can't see their feet touch at any point so it may just be that Jewett hears them coming and trips over his own foot.
Jewett was tripped, but not by Amos.
Rotich comes round both of them just as Jewett moves to right ( possibly trying to overtake himself). Rotich then clips the back of Jewett’s leg, he falls and brings down Amos
Amos caused it and should be DQ from the semi-final. Jewett should be advanced to the final.
cramberrys wrote:
I don't know if WA deems it that Jewetts heelkick is so extensive that he's at fault
Wow, this might be the dumbest post, in a thread full of really uninformed posts.
truly obvious wrote:
cramberrys wrote:
I don't know if WA deems it that Jewetts heelkick is so extensive that he's at fault
Wow, this might be the dumbest post, in a thread full of really uninformed posts.
I'm not arguing it myself, I'm trying to find what their reasoning is for not including Jewett but including Amos. Maybe it was a bit far fetched, but the collision happens as a result of an interaction between the two, where it's very hard to argue that Jewett is at fault, yet they advance Amos. Imo Amos wasn't at fault either, but that it rather was a unlucky interaction. Happy?
They obviously watched it a bunch of times in slow motion and determined that Jewett tripped on his own.
cramberrys wrote:
I'm not arguing it myself, I'm trying to find what their reasoning is for not including Jewett but including Amos. Maybe it was a bit far fetched, but the collision happens as a result of an interaction between the two, where it's very hard to argue that Jewett is at fault, yet they advance Amos. Imo Amos wasn't at fault either, but that it rather was a unlucky interaction. Happy?
If it is an unlucky interaction, nobody who falls gets moved to the final. It is considered part of the race with no fault.
For someone to be moved through, there needs to be blame assessed.
So you are right that the officials are implying blame for Jewett. But wrong that a long trailing leg is a reason. He fell, obviously Botswanan officials would have lodged a protest as a hail-mary, and because Amos is a very well-known among the favorites he was moved on even with no clear reason provided (because there is none).
What video is everyone looking at?
I've seen the twitter feed linked in this thread, from which you can't tell anything - too far away.
I saw one replay on Peacock that was much closer and taken from the runner's right side. It looked like Jewett tripped over his own feet with no contact from anyone, which started and caused all the subsequent events. I can't find that replay anywhere.
Anyone else?
relay man wrote:
They obviously watched it a bunch of times in slow motion and determined that Jewett tripped on his own.
Yes, that’s also the way I see it.
Can people who see it another way provide videos please about their claim (that Jewett should be reinstated to the final) which is counter to this because I was not able to access any?
nobrainer wrote:
Norwegian commentators agreed that Jewett fell on his own. And, evidently, so do the officials.
Oh, NORWEGIAN COMMENTATORS AGREED? Oh, wow.
Wait, why should anyone give a fvck what these people said? They probably watched it less than most people on this thead lol.
What place was he in when he went down? This sounds awful convenient.
Bummer!
They should put Jewett in there also.
It looked like there may have been some contact Jewett’s right heel to Amos’s right knee before the fall.
Jewett then has his right foot moving foreword clip his left calf and falls, then Amos falls on top of him.
At the moment before falling Jewett was 3rd and Amos was 5th(being passed). If there was no contact between them it’s likely that neither would have made the final.
Hopefully they can find an extra spot for Jewett since Amos is in.
Excellent sportsmanship between them and that’s really what it’s all about in the Olympics, athletics, and life.
The irony here is unless they both got in the top two neither would've advanced on time as you needed faster than 1:44.30 for a q and the second Q in that semi was 1:44.53.
NodoubtAboutit wrote:
Without question, Jewett definitely tripped over his own feet. I can see Amos going to the final, as a 9th runner only.
It is so funny to see someone post that "without question" this "definitely" happened. Do you even run? How often do you see elite 800m runners simply trip over nothing???
WATCH AGAIN WITH YOUR EYES. Jewett only stumbles AFTER the contact, when Amos runs into in his backswing.
Jewett's heel clearly chopped by Amos from behind.
This, unlike people tripping "over their own feet" happens ALL THE TIME in track.
How could a guy whose job is to run for a living just trip over his own feet without some help lol. I’ve never seen someone who was still strong just completely trip over their own feet while running lmao. Just shows when you get above 400ms there are very few athletes out there haha.