Jakob opens at 3:36 vs Cheptegei opens at 3:37

You are a member of the KKK, whatever the merits of it is that you say. That is if you say anything with merit.

And just so we are clear, us East Africans (and Black people, seeing your biggest issue is race) want our runners and athletes to be cleaner much more than you do. People like you dgaf; its only about proving disproven and outdated theories.

So people aren’t using this 3:36 opener as proof that Jakob doped for his 3:28 like they were using Joshua’s 3:37 as proof that his 5000m WR was doped. Weird.

Honssson wrote:

You have no idea what it is like to be an elite runner. I could try to explain it to you but if you think that the fastest ever at 5000 and 10000 and a 3:28 Norwegian teenager were clean I can tell you have no business offering f any opinion on ANYTHING.

Everyone that hurts your feelings isn't doping... just stop...

By your logic every record holder ever has been a doper... lol...

jakob is drug tested, so he is not doping, do i need to elaborate? my god

regpk wrote:

Coevett wrote:

0/10.

Not really worth replying to, but what does 'you're not telling me a Norwegian teen who runs 3:28 isn't doping' mean?

It's been pointed out here literally hundreds of times by dozens of posters that Seb Coe 'must have been doping' because no other white person has got close to his 1:41.7.

"literally hundreds of times by dozens of posters" can you list two of those hundreds?

And running 1:41, 2:12. and not perfect 3:47 40 years ago is as dodgy as Sifan Hassan, Gudaf Tsegay, Genzebe Dibaba or Almaz Ayana.

Lol, you just implied it yourself you imbecile. Cram ran similar times. But they were doping because Africans weren't running those times then?

Most of the doping apologists here are anonymous and only even use regular unregistered handles, but Casual Observer is one who has made the 'Coe is too much of a white outlier' argument dozens of times. El K and others constantly use/used the explicit claim that any white runner who can run as fast as a doped Kenyan must themselves be doped.

Those African names you mentioned are suspicious not simply because of outlier times, but because of agents such as Aden, no testing in their countries, EPO on sale for 50 cents in pharmacies no questions asked, 150+ Kenyan doping busts, tea money bribes, top of global corruption indexes etc etc. Do you understand? Imbecile.

He most definitely did not just explicitly say that Coe must be doping because he was a white fast guy. That was your claim.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Win the race? With Musagala, McSweyn, Barega, Tefera, Birgen, Musab and El Bakkali, it’s a stronger field than competed in Gateshead. Of course, conditions will likely be more conducive to 1500m running, so I’ll say Cheruiyot throws down a 3:30.6 world lead, and exactly like Ingebrigtsen yesterday, he beats McSweyn by 1.05 seconds.

Yes, I'd say winning by .4 or more and running 3:31.5 or faster would be keeping pace. Since it's Doha figuring it will be air-conditioned and perfect conditions. It was a really composed victory for Jakob in Gateshead. I would've liked to see what would've happened if there was a big kicker in the field, but he did a nice job vs. Hoare.

The Diamond League is at the Suhaim bin Hamad Stadium, not the Khalifa International Stadium. Expected temperature 95 - 100° F.

barney23 wrote:

You are a member of the KKK, whatever the merits of it is that you say. That is if you say anything with merit.

And just so we are clear, us East Africans (and Black people, seeing your biggest issue is race) want our runners and athletes to be cleaner much more than you do. People like you dgaf; its only about proving disproven and outdated theories.

You sound like a sicko. Throwing slander at people who are rightly suspicious about runners. Runners from an area that have had tons of doping busts and an area where there is no testing. All those countries should be banned until they have the same testing as the rest of the world.

Drug test everyone.

Hoare is coached by Ritz, Ritz was coached by Salazar. Suddenly Hoare is running lights out.

Hmmmm

Coevett wrote:

regpk wrote:

In 18 years of Letsrun I have never read a serious post where someone claimed that white runners must be doping simply because they are fast and white.

0/10.

And obviously, you are the Top 1 poster in these forums that I have seen in these forum accusing Africans for using EPO.

I true I strongly doubted about Sebastian Coe dominance because he only run 2 races sub 1:43 in 800m and his wining in races was at the rate 50%: I win today but not sure for tomorrow.

surveysays wrote:

He most definitely did not just explicitly say that Coe must be doping because he was a white fast guy. That was your claim.

+1

His usual lies.

Pert wrote:

Drug test everyone.

Hoare is coached by Ritz, Ritz was coached by Salazar. Suddenly Hoare is running lights out.

Hmmmm

Exactly the problem. Some, like Hoare are being drug tested, but others, on the other side of the world are getting a free pass. Why?

Coevett wrote:

El K and others

What happened to that guy, El Keniano?

I haven't seen him on here for a while.

rshrhr wrote:

surveysays wrote:

He most definitely did not just explicitly say that Coe must be doping because he was a white fast guy. That was your claim.

+1

His usual lies.

Indeed. It’s all he is known for.

carney wrote:

Pert wrote:

Drug test everyone.

Hoare is coached by Ritz, Ritz was coached by Salazar. Suddenly Hoare is running lights out.

Hmmmm

Exactly the problem. Some, like Hoare are being drug tested, but others, on the other side of the world are getting a free pass. Why?

It's a myth that "others, on the other side of the world are getting a free pass".

WADA setup a local lab in Nairobi in 2018.