Joshua Cheptegei 10,000m record assault - Official Discussion Thread 

What is this 7th grade? Don’t get personal everyone has their own opinion

I have heard 5k split goal 13:05 to 13:07

I'm guessing 26:09

Also BannanaBread sucks

Not to mention the likely big pharma help Bekele got back then, surely worth more than some shoes and lights baby

Cheptegei's shoes aren't the same as the vaporfly road shoe. They are a fairly normal flat with some cushioning using the zoomx foam. I doubt they provide much advantage at all compared to similar flats from recent years.

With more serious and consistent training, Bekele could already have gone faster without current tech

BZ wrote:

With more serious and consistent training, Bekele could already have gone faster without current tech

Bekele was probably capable of 12:32 or so definitely, also Joshua can run 12:29 next year if he has incentive and very good conditions.

I would bet on him getting the world record but THERE IS 0% CHANCE HE RUNS UNDER 26 MIN.

Here is the problem: They are targeting the world record, maybe 26:10 depending on what the actual pace asked for is. With pacers and particularly wavelight making sure they are on pace, he probably won't start running faster than the prescribed pace (if he can) until 2 or 3 laps to go, way too late to make up 10 seconds (I don't think he is running a 53 second last 400 to close out a world record.

That being said, if he were to go out on 26 min pace, I think he would have a small shot at doing it, but because he the pace is more conservative (still world record pace, but conservatice in comparison with 13 flat through 5k) I think the chances of him going under 26 min are 0%.

Why don't we listen to the experts? Jos Hermens. Gebrselassie. Canova. All are saying Cheptegei is the best ever. I think he'll crush this record, and as Geb states, if it goes below 26:00 this could stand until post-Tokyo year.

Any clarification on viewing? Does the youtube link work everywhere? Flotrack is doing a show with Chelimo but is it a real viewing of the meet? Olympic Channel is showing which normally means NBC sports gold also shows it but it is not listed as upcoming.

Most of us believe that the WR is going to be broken today, it sounds reasonable since he just ran 12:35 and we know he is good at 10,000m too. The weather is not great, 73 degrees could be hot for 25 laps hopefully is not humid otherwise impossible since 26:17 is such an amazing time. My prediction is if broken maybe 26:12.

We’ll see.

I think because of the prescribed pace of 13:05, the fastest he could make happen is 26:05. He did pick it up in the 5k record, but not by any giant margin. If he gets to 5k under 13:10, sub 26:10 is possible, but not for sure.

I think he will run 26:09 with 13:07/13:02 splits. I see no way he DOESNT break the record because of the following factors:

- Chep's internal pacing is metronomic, can run laps very even paced solo

- Wavelight tech, even if it barely helps Chep (peripheral vision), def helps the pacers

- Dragonfly Spikes, while not at all VaporFly-esque, do give additional support and energy return

MOST IMPORTANTLY

jabouk wrote:

I think he will run 26:09 with 13:07/13:02 splits. I see no way he DOESNT break the record because of the following factors:

- Chep's internal pacing is metronomic, can run laps very even paced solo

- Wavelight tech, even if it barely helps Chep (peripheral vision), def helps the pacers

- Dragonfly Spikes, while not at all VaporFly-esque, do give additional support and energy return

MOST IMPORTANTLY

KEY FACTOR is pacer Nicholas Kimeli. With the following times

- 12:51 with suboptimal pacing in Monaco (chased Chep early)

- 13:08 at altitude in Nairobi

- 26:58 pretty much solo towards the end

I believe he will definitely make it to 6000 meters, if not beyond

After watching a few of his races. I think he'll succeed with getting the world record. I also think if Kipchoge wanted the 10k world record. He would've achieved it also.

Adifan wrote:

Cheptegei's shoes aren't the same as the vaporfly road shoe. They are a fairly normal flat with some cushioning using the zoomx foam. I doubt they provide much advantage at all compared to similar flats from recent years.

Nah the dragonflys are for sure faster, we don’t have the same scientific reports as we have for the Vaporflys but let’s await them.

The lighting that shows the record pace to the runners on the track is bs. How is that fair to guys in the past? Not even going to mention shoes.

VroomVroom wrote:

The lighting that shows the record pace to the runners on the track is bs. How is that fair to guys in the past? Not even going to mention shoes.

Yeah, imo all that stuff is crap—especially the lights.

jabouk wrote:

jabouk wrote:

I think he will run 26:09 with 13:07/13:02 splits. I see no way he DOESNT break the record because of the following factors:

- Chep's internal pacing is metronomic, can run laps very even paced solo

- Wavelight tech, even if it barely helps Chep (peripheral vision), def helps the pacers

- Dragonfly Spikes, while not at all VaporFly-esque, do give additional support and energy return

MOST IMPORTANTLY

KEY FACTOR is pacer Nicholas Kimeli. With the following times

- 12:51 with suboptimal pacing in Monaco (chased Chep early)

- 13:08 at altitude in Nairobi

- 26:58 pretty much solo towards the end

I believe he will definitely make it to 6000 meters, if not beyond

Agreed, biggest factor is not the shoes. It's the pacing. Kimeli may be able to get to 7000 if he pushes. Who knows.

Also, Shelby broke the AR in normal spikes earlier this year. I'm not convinced the Dragonfly is all that much faster than normal spikes. She said she liked her normal spikes more.

To whoever said that Bekele was "obviously the better runner with more talent and could have run faster" idk how you make that proclamation. It isn't obvious. Cheptegei ran 12:35 in 79 degree weather. They are on par.