Is Jakob Ingebrigtsen FINISHED?

If there was a 19 year old anyone running 3:28 it’d be crazy. I still can’t believe Mo Farah ran that fast, actually. Or that Centrowtiz killed the medals game for 10 years. The 3:28 teenager will probably get faster unless injury occurs.

Heres Jonny wrote:

I look at Jakob and I see a fairly young runner who has essentially maxed out. He may end up running 3:28, 7:30, 12:55 and 26:55. However, I think he is fairly close to that now and I just do not see his arc of improvement yielding much, if anything, beyond the above times. It is still a great career for the young man but there just doesn’t seem to be much room for improvement.

There are a lot of dumb anonymous threads around here but this is fairly up there at the top....

Jonny, Jonny.... time to step away from that keyboard

Have you seen what the kid eats for breakfast? High fat chocolate crap on toast. It is incredibly hard to improve once you get to that top top level. You will only be as strong as your weakest link and if he switched to a high carb low fat vegan diet, distilled water and B12 shots his recovery will go UP and so will his fitness.

He does not have the "It" factor to finish and win. Centro had it, Willis has it Bronze level and Kiprop had it. The Algerian has it. Jacob not quite, he might, but right now he is a player, not a Winner. Can he win in the last 100, does he have the last gear. don't tell me he just ran 3:28, he didn't win .

If he only ran those time he's not exactly finished. You'd need him to go backwards like one of your tern American college stars for that.

Heres Jonny wrote:

Brazilian Guy wrote:

He seems more likely to run under 3:26 than it would be for El Guerrouj to break his world record again.

Well yeah but remember Hicham is almost 46 so although I agree with you, Hicham has ZERO chance while Jakob probably has a one in a trillion chance due to drugs, shoe and track technology, etc. However, the smart money says Jakob is now going to essentially plateau.

WOAH 1:1,000,000,000,000

I will give you action on that. How much you wanna bet?

Jakob finished? He never got started. He's lucky that our Ronald Musagala has had some bad luck, and that Joshua hasn't yet decided to contest the 1500m with Tim, otherwise he is scrapping for the minor places with Craig Engels.

Tim can have the glory in Tokyo, but my sources tell me that we have a young talent about to breakthrough who has 3:24 already stamped on his birth certificate. ? ? See you guys in Paris and clean sweep from 800 to marathon for Uganda!

Not sure why you are so angry. However, there is no need for you to lie as you choose to do. Jakob did not improve his personal best by 2 seconds this year at 1500m. It is important to tell the truth. When I ask whether Jakob is finished, I mean he is essentially finished in terms of improvement. Not sure why there are so many who think Jakob is not close to his ceiling. It appears Jakob is brushing up against his ceiling.

El Ugandiano wrote:

Jakob finished? He never got started. He's lucky that our Ronald Musagala has had some bad luck, and that Joshua hasn't yet decided to contest the 1500m with Tim, otherwise he is scrapping for the minor places with Craig Engels.

Tim can have the glory in Tokyo, but my sources tell me that we have a young talent about to breakthrough who has 3:24 already stamped on his birth certificate. ? ? See you guys in Paris and clean sweep from 800 to marathon for Uganda!

I think your act has run its course, Cleo/El K. Gotta do better than this.

roller coaster wrote:

El Ugandiano wrote:

Jakob finished? He never got started. He's lucky that our Ronald Musagala has had some bad luck, and that Joshua hasn't yet decided to contest the 1500m with Tim, otherwise he is scrapping for the minor places with Craig Engels.

Tim can have the glory in Tokyo, but my sources tell me that we have a young talent about to breakthrough who has 3:24 already stamped on his birth certificate. ? ? See you guys in Paris and clean sweep from 800 to marathon for Uganda!

I think your act has run its course, Cleo/El K. Gotta do better than this.

I think you mean Cleo needs urgent psychiatric help.

No, objectively this is one of the most stupid posts ever on LetsRun, and that's a feat almost as incredible as a 19 year old running 3:28.

You really are nuts. A 19 year old runs 3:28 with little drafting, then follows it up with a 3:30 on a slow and windy track, and you think he's 'finished'???

Coevette,

How is it that Jakob I is clean when running 3:28 at 19, but Mo Farah is dirty running 3:28 at a much older age?

im doing a toast wrote:

Coevette,

How is it that Jakob I is clean when running 3:28 at 19, but Mo Farah is dirty running 3:28 at a much older age?

Doorbells, NOP, sudden improvements, lies about injections, months training in remote Ethiopia (even now) etc. etc.

20 year old Steve Ovett was faster than 25 year old Mo at every distance up to half marathon.

Having said all that, Mo does get it harsher here simply as a British citizen. If he switched alliegance to the US,.mostbof those accusing him now would be all over his nutz.

Btw, presumably you're ex-runner who has some kind of broken record playing in his mind when it comes to this faulty logic.

If Jakob could run 3:28 at 19 clean it proves Mo is clean and I'm racist??

If Coe could run 3:28 clean on a Monaco track it proves Tim is clean???

No it doesn't. If proves you have poor reasoning skills.

Just to clarify- when I said it's possible no Kenyan has ran under 3:35 clean, I meant just that. That doping is so confirmed rampant in Kenya that all elite performances are suspect, just as all Russian performances are suspect, just as all GDR performances are suspect (except to Rekrunner).

I didn't even say that every Kenyan under 3:35 doped, let alone that no Kenyam could run under 3:35 clean.

Heres Jonny wrote:

He may end up running 3:28, 7:30, 12:55 and 26:55.

That would put him near but not at the level of 800+ GOAT Augustine Choge

1:44

3:29

Multiple 7:28/7:29

12:53

59:27

If you're going to be talking real greatness he'll have to beat the man at more than one event. And bear in mind, Choge's 1500 wasn't at Monaco. All Monaco 3:28's have at least one *, maybe two **

Jakob's 800 pr of 1:46.xx makes no sense. That's 4 plus seconds slower than Coe, 3 plus seconds slower than Cram, 2 plus seconds slower than Steve Scott, a full second slower than Nick Willis.

Yet somehow he manages to blow all of their 1500 times out of the water. Jakobs 800 pr was run in ideal, paced conditions. Maybe he gets a second or so faster by the time he's 23 but he will never be a 1:42 man without drastic changes.

While EL G, Lagat, and Farah all had less than world class 800 times they were carrying 20 to 30 lbs less than Jakob and it's not entirely surprising they could hold on so well.

Jakob has done amazing things but watching him lumber along it strains credibility to believe it's natural. Don't get me wrong, he's hardly the only suspicious guy on the track. I just can't believe a runner with a 50/50 chance at making a NCAA 800 final is the fastest Anglo 1500 runner in history.

OK so you wrote that “it’s possible that no Kenyan could run under 3:35 clean.” Well you are confessing again to being a White Supremacist. You say that Jakob is clean and that it is possible then that Jakob is at least 7 seconds faster at 1500m than any Kenyan who has ever lived. You are admitting that you are a White Supremacist, but one wonders why it is almost always the stupid people like you who are White Supremacists.

Coevett wrote:

[ it's possible no Kenyan has ran under 3:35 clean

OK, let's pay. Mike Boit ran 1:43 aged 17 in 1976, and 3:33.67 in 1981. What drugs do you believe Brother Colm O'Connell was peddling at St. Patrick's School in Iten during Mike's high school years?

No one doubts drugs have reached Kenya now, but they weren't there in the beginning. East Africa always had incredible talent.

I don’t want this to be true, but I can foresee a scenario where Jakob is out of the sport permanently by age 25.

Seems like he is just getting started..