There aren't equivalent cases of runners ratting on other runners because unlike cyclists they aren't part of a team, cheating together. But it's just another way you seek to minimise and even deny doping in distance running. So the endless violations coming out of Kenya show you nothing. There is no end to your flat-earthism.
The reasons you lack real world information are not relevant -- it is enough for me to know you don't have any real information, so it is just you guessing.
Since you are a person with no proven experience in any relevant domain, I think it is most appropriate to completely discount and dismiss all of your guessing. It would be different if you could refer to evidence, observations, and facts.
Maybe you can ask Sage to help you.
It isn't my experience that is relevant, clod - or yours - it is that of the countless sportsmen and women who dope.
Like I thought. Sage didn't talk about either running or doping. You are wrong again.
So he was discussing your knowledge of opera - or something else? You keep proving him right, about how clueless you are.
His unsubstantiated opinion about my knowledge is neither a discussion of doping, nor running.
Judging from his own self description -- much of his knowledge is lay study, from forums, books and sensational documentaries. From that description, it looks like we have about the same level of information.
The reasons you lack real world information are not relevant -- it is enough for me to know you don't have any real information, so it is just you guessing.
Since you are a person with no proven experience in any relevant domain, I think it is most appropriate to completely discount and dismiss all of your guessing. It would be different if you could refer to evidence, observations, and facts.
Maybe you can ask Sage to help you.
It isn't my experience that is relevant, clod - or yours - it is that of the countless sportsmen and women who dope.
But you don't know their actual experience. You don't even know which ones are using.
But we do know all-time historical performance -- it is recorded history.
How many sea-level non-African dopers have broken 3:30? 13:00? 27:00? 2:07:00?
Sorry Reky, I need to consider your obtuseness. The number IS... the number of Kenyans current under suspernsion for doping as of this second. I hope that clears it up for you.
Sorry Jaky, that does not prove "MOST everybody dopes."
Well I know where I can find you! Page 19 of a doping thread denying doping exists! You're so 2016!!
It isn't my experience that is relevant, clod - or yours - it is that of the countless sportsmen and women who dope.
But you don't know their actual experience. You don't even know which ones are using.
But we do know all-time historical performance -- it is recorded history.
How many sea-level non-African dopers have broken 3:30? 13:00? 27:00? 2:07:00?
Your figures show nothing. As explained before, you have no confirmed benchmark for clean performances and you don't know who was doping. But we know athletes have been doping for decades - in all sports and in all countries (some more than others). That total will be countless but if you want to put a figure on it it will be well into the thousands.
So he was discussing your knowledge of opera - or something else? You keep proving him right, about how clueless you are.
His unsubstantiated opinion about my knowledge is neither a discussion of doping, nor running.
Judging from his own self description -- much of his knowledge is lay study, from forums, books and sensational documentaries. From that description, it looks like we have about the same level of information.
Your opinions speak for themselves. They show Sage is right about you. Whether you have some of the same information as anyone else is irrelevant - nothing influences you away from your doping-denial views. You could choose to work for WADA but you still wouldn't find any dopers.
Your opinions speak for themselves. They show Sage is right about you. Whether you have some of the same information as anyone else is irrelevant - nothing influences you away from your doping-denial views. You could choose to work for WADA but you still wouldn't find any dopers.
It is rare that I offer my personal opinions. As I said elsewhere, I will follow the facts, evidence, and observations.
Sage only shows that athletes are not immune to irrationally drawing baseless conclusions.
But you don't know their actual experience. You don't even know which ones are using.
But we do know all-time historical performance -- it is recorded history.
How many sea-level non-African dopers have broken 3:30? 13:00? 27:00? 2:07:00?
Your figures show nothing. As explained before, you have no confirmed benchmark for clean performances and you don't know who was doping. But we know athletes have been doping for decades - in all sports and in all countries (some more than others). That total will be countless but if you want to put a figure on it it will be well into the thousands.
I wouldn't say "nothing", but they do suggest against any notion that doping has become more powerful in the last few decades.
Your opinions speak for themselves. They show Sage is right about you. Whether you have some of the same information as anyone else is irrelevant - nothing influences you away from your doping-denial views. You could choose to work for WADA but you still wouldn't find any dopers.
It is rare that I offer my personal opinions. As I said elsewhere, I will follow the facts, evidence, and observations.
Sage only shows that athletes are not immune to irrationally drawing baseless conclusions.
He also shows that you "aren't immune to irrationally drawing baseless conclusions".
Your figures show nothing. As explained before, you have no confirmed benchmark for clean performances and you don't know who was doping. But we know athletes have been doping for decades - in all sports and in all countries (some more than others). That total will be countless but if you want to put a figure on it it will be well into the thousands.
I wouldn't say "nothing", but they do suggest against any notion that doping has become more powerful in the last few decades.
They don't have to be more powerful if they are already performance enhancing. But they have become more widespread and impossible to stop.
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