Former Attorney General Bill Barr warned Republicans to “be careful” of getting caught in former President Trump’s “carnage,” after the property manager of his Mar-a-Lago resort was added to the cl…
“As a legal matter, I don’t see a problem with the indictment,” he said. “I think that it’s not an abuse. The Department of Justice is not acting to weaponize the department by proceeding against the president for a conspiracy to subvert the electoral process.”
What in your mind makes MSNBC, CNN, NBC news, NY Times, etc., unbiased and objective?
Read the indictment, that's what I did. Everything else is spin.
People like Newname and Sally Vix aren't capable of reading the Indictment or they have some pathological head-in-the-sand aversion to reading it. So all they can do is skim their favorite media for headlines of articles that appear to attack the Indictment. Unfortunately for this message board, they then feel the need to post the articles and pretend they know and understand the content. Very strange behavior all around.
Not my boy at all. But to indict him for "disseminating disinformation" is really Fd up.
They didn't indite for "disseminating disinformation." That's just what Turley characterized the Indictment as, and you are just repeating what he said.
The Indictment alleges a lot more than "disseminating disinformation." For example, there are many paragraphs related to a Trump conspiracy to have fake electors create fake electoral certifications. If you ever read the Indictment, you will see those allegations.
Read the indictment, that's what I did. Everything else is spin.
People like Newname and Sally Vix aren't capable of reading the Indictment or they have some pathological head-in-the-sand aversion to reading it. So all they can do is skim their favorite media for headlines of articles that appear to attack the Indictment. Unfortunately for this message board, they then feel the need to post the articles and pretend they know and understand the content. Very strange behavior all around.
Okay sir, then YOU go through the entire indictment and pick out the most salient points and post here.
Read the indictment, that's what I did. Everything else is spin.
People like Newname and Sally Vix aren't capable of reading the Indictment or they have some pathological head-in-the-sand aversion to reading it. So all they can do is skim their favorite media for headlines of articles that appear to attack the Indictment. Unfortunately for this message board, they then feel the need to post the articles and pretend they know and understand the content. Very strange behavior all around.
who cares about the indictment? do you even understand what that is and who wrote it? that thing is a meaningless interpretation of events written by someone who suffers from a serious disease. will take years to sort it out. will probably be a movie someday by mel gibson. in any event, even if your appetite is fed and the boogyman goes to prison, then we will just have a President making decisions from prison. if that's what you crave, then thats what you will get. its not like anyone is going to siphon votes off m'age, and just maybe some of you have grown up and matured and the big dog will get even more votes. polls looking that way.
People like Newname and Sally Vix aren't capable of reading the Indictment or they have some pathological head-in-the-sand aversion to reading it. So all they can do is skim their favorite media for headlines of articles that appear to attack the Indictment. Unfortunately for this message board, they then feel the need to post the articles and pretend they know and understand the content. Very strange behavior all around.
Okay sir, then YOU go through the entire indictment and pick out the most salient points and post here.
I gave you one salient point right above regarding fake electors and fake electoral certificates. I doubt you even know what I'm talking about because I've yet to see Fox or any other Trump fanzine mention fake electors and fake certificates yet. There's a reason they haven't. Think about it.
People like Newname and Sally Vix aren't capable of reading the Indictment or they have some pathological head-in-the-sand aversion to reading it. So all they can do is skim their favorite media for headlines of articles that appear to attack the Indictment. Unfortunately for this message board, they then feel the need to post the articles and pretend they know and understand the content. Very strange behavior all around.
who cares about the indictment?
Trump cares about it. John Eastman, Kenneth Chesebro and their respective lawyers care about it A LOT.
I'd bet YOU care about it, given the frequency of your posts about the Indictment. Am I wrong?
who cares about the indictment? do you even understand what that is and who wrote it? that thing is a meaningless interpretation of events written by someone who suffers from a serious disease. will take years to sort it out. will probably be a movie someday by mel gibson. in any event, even if your appetite is fed and the boogyman goes to prison, then we will just have a President making decisions from prison. if that's what you crave, then thats what you will get. its not like anyone is going to siphon votes off m'age, and just maybe some of you have grown up and matured and the big dog will get even more votes. polls looking that way.
The regular citizens on the grand jury who voted to indict -- they care. So do most of us citizens.
Pence: Let’s be clear on this point. It wasn't that they asked for a pause. The president specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes which would have resulted in the issue of being turned over to the house of representatives.
Pence: Let’s be clear on this point. It wasn't that they asked for a pause. The president specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes which would have resulted in the issue of being turned over to the house of representatives pic.twitter.com/QTyw99l8sc
This is why people like Koko and VIX must be trolls. It has been outlined in this thread a million times to Sunday that the indictment is not about telling lies. I'll do what many have tried but have clearly been unsuccessful at doing:
1) In the 3rd paragraph it is acknowledged President Trump has the right to claim whatever he wants and file lawsuits challenging the election. The indictment is not about saying he can't lie or doesn't have free speech. In fact, the indictment says can do both to his heart's content.
2) What is not ok, and what he may go to jail for (among lots of other things)... if found guilty is:
a) Organized fraudulent slates of electors in seven target states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin).
b) Calling and trying to use bully tactics to convince the Georgia Secretary of State to alter Georgia's popular vote count.
c) Ordering a subordinate (Mike Pence) to do change the election results.
Maybe Trump is found Not Guilty to everything. But clearly the above is not legal and if he is found guilty of doing these things he should go to jail. I think it would make a lot of people feel better if those supporting Trump would sit back and say "you know... if he really did this stuff... then yeah, he should be locked up... but I don't think he did so will support him until there is a verdict." Clearly if Biden or Obama did the above it would be a problem. So just admit that the charges are serious but you would like to wait until a verdict before passing judgement.
As far as the legal opinions, it makes a lot of sense that they’d be all over the place: no case like this has ever been brought before. I’m not a lawyer, and we’ll see how it goes, but as an observer I also know no one has ever tried to do what Trump tried to do. It seems to me a case had to be brought, because Trump was alarmingly close finding enough patsies and yes men to affect the election. I understand where Glenn Greenwald is coming from about the perception on the right that this is entire political, and of course that’s a MAJOR concern. But you know, there are also widely held perceptions on the right that scientists and reporters make stuff up, Venezuela programs voting machines to help democrats, and that democrats drink children’s blood to stay young. If you can’t bring serious court cases because half the country is nuts, it seems to me the game is already over.
As far as the legal opinions, it makes a lot of sense that they’d be all over the place: no case like this has ever been brought before. I’m not a lawyer, and we’ll see how it goes, but as an observer I also know no one has ever tried to do what Trump tried to do. It seems to me a case had to be brought, because Trump was alarmingly close finding enough patsies and yes men to affect the election. I understand where Glenn Greenwald is coming from about the perception on the right that this is entire political, and of course that’s a MAJOR concern. But you know, there are also widely held perceptions on the right that scientists and reporters make stuff up, Venezuela programs voting machines to help democrats, and that democrats drink children’s blood to stay young. If you can’t bring serious court cases because half the country is nuts, it seems to me the game is already over.
Read the indictment, that's what I did. Everything else is spin.
People like Newname and Sally Vix aren't capable of reading the Indictment or they have some pathological head-in-the-sand aversion to reading it. So all they can do is skim their favorite media for headlines of articles that appear to attack the Indictment. Unfortunately for this message board, they then feel the need to post the articles and pretend they know and understand the content. Very strange behavior all around.
As far as the legal opinions, it makes a lot of sense that they’d be all over the place: no case like this has ever been brought before. I’m not a lawyer, and we’ll see how it goes, but as an observer I also know no one has ever tried to do what Trump tried to do. It seems to me a case had to be brought, because Trump was alarmingly close finding enough patsies and yes men to affect the election. I understand where Glenn Greenwald is coming from about the perception on the right that this is entire political, and of course that’s a MAJOR concern. But you know, there are also widely held perceptions on the right that scientists and reporters make stuff up, Venezuela programs voting machines to help democrats, and that democrats drink children’s blood to stay young. If you can’t bring serious court cases because half the country is nuts, it seems to me the game is already over.
POD
Word. They are crying now because they simply want him to get away with it. No one is defending him with respect to the charges. No one is reading the document. Let's just all pretend the guy is not a criminal and let it go, lolz. Even Nikki is out there saying she will pardon him. They they don't even try to pretend he's not a criminal.
Pence: Let’s be clear on this point. It wasn't that they asked for a pause. The president specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes which would have resulted in the issue of being turned over to the house of representatives.
