Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread

Dr Litton's Way out wrote:

Dr Litton is a good man but had a serious error in judgement. shit probably piled up all at once and it got out of control and he needs our sympathy and forgiveness now.

He should admit that he made some mistakes and then we can all move on. The man may be God fearing and it sounds like he may watch Fox news a lot, but he needs to stop the fake posts pretending to be a citizen of Genessee county praising the man. If anything, he owes the citizens of Gennessee county, the Flint Journal, and Bill Khan an apology.

Amen brother

unless you know him, you can't say he's a good man or a bad man. did he cheat? well, you figure it out. for me it's beyond obvious.

Dr. Litton is a great man who wouldn't even make an illegal left turn, let alone cheat thousands of people in a major race. I don't know if it's that all you losers are jealous of his career success; his racing success; or that all of your wives wish you were him, but it's really not fair to defame such a great man because of your own inadequacies.

Dr. Litton is a great man who wouldn't even make an illegal left turn, let alone cheat thousands of people in a major race. I don't know if it's that all you losers are jealous of his career success; his racing success; or that all of your wives wish you were him, but it's really not fair to defame such a great man because of your own inadequacies.

Hmmmmmmm wrote:

Dr Litton's Way out wrote:

Dr Litton is a good man but had a serious error in judgement. shit probably piled up all at once and it got out of control and he needs our sympathy and forgiveness now.

He should admit that he made some mistakes and then we can all move on. The man may be God fearing and it sounds like he may watch Fox news a lot, but he needs to stop the fake posts pretending to be a citizen of Genessee county praising the man. If anything, he owes the citizens of Gennessee county, the Flint Journal, and Bill Khan an apology.

Amen brother

We should have a LetsRun group trip up to Davison and occupy the parking lot of Kip Litton DDS.

Trollist wrote:

Dr. Litton is a great man who wouldn't even make an illegal left turn, let alone cheat thousands of people in a major race. I don't know if it's that all you losers are jealous of his career success; his racing success; or that all of your wives wish you were him, but it's really not fair to defame such a great man because of your own inadequacies.

Dr. Litton is a great man who just made some mistakes. He owes the Genessee County citizens, The Flint Journal, and Bill Khan, a letter of apology. Dr. Litton's denial has dug him into a deeper and deeper hole and has now led him to being the subject of a pending article in a national magazine. The fact is the National Magazine wouldn't risk libel if some of the accusations and disqualifications didn't hold some truth.

THE FACTs (to the best of our knowledge)

Dr. Litton was Disqualified at the following races:

1) City of Trees (Idaho) 2009

2) Missoula Marathon 2010 (Montana)

3) Delaware Marathon 2010

4) Deadwood SD Trail Marathon 2010 (South Dakota)

5) 2009 Crim 10 miler (Michigan)

6) Detroit Free Press Relay - 1st denied, then admitted must've taken a wrong turn

7) 2009 Northville, MI Solstace 10K (Michigan)

8) Marshall Univ Marathon 2010 (West Virginia)

Additional Notes: in 2010, Dr. Litton won a race listed on marathonguide.com and athlinks.com that does not exist that was called the West Wyoming Marathon. The west wyoming marathon's website was hosted at the same IP (internet protocol) address as kiplittondds.com as well as a number of local Michigan businesses along with SandySprings Half and PineHills 5K. The names of the finishers, besides Dr. Litton, all appear to be fictitious persons.

Some of the "Oddities:" (from other races)

>>>Dr. Litton took over 5 minutes to cross the starting line at Charlotte Thunder Road Marathon. 2 participants stated Dr. Litton never passed them but ended up in front of them late in the race.

>>>Dr. Litton took over 4 minutes to cross the starting line at the BAA 2010 5K, and crossed the finish in 17:17 (5:34/mi) net time wearing a blue jacket and black pants.

>>>Dr. Litton does not have splits at Go! St. Louis 2010 Marathon at 6mi or at 20mi. Dr. Litton came in 19th at this race, and all of the other finishers in the top 20 have these splits except Dr. Litton.

>>>Dr. Litton has very few photos at the 2009 BayShore Marathon, except for the final stretch before the finish line. Even the last place finishers with similar chip/gun differentials have photos showing themselves throughout the course.

>>>Dr. Litton is pictured walking during a 17:37 5K performance at a Gasparilla Distance Classic contest in 2010. Dr. Litton is still listed on wikipedia.com as the winner of the Gasparilla Distance Classic, but there is an aster ix next to his name.

Media Notes

>>>Bill Khan, former writer for the Flint Journal, published an article praising Dr. Litton's accomplishments, but later added a note that Dr. Litton's performances are under scrutiny. In light of the recent revelations, Bill Khan says today that he feels "duped" that he wrote this article.

>>>Bill Khan, former writer for the Flint Journal, wrote an article praising Dr. Litton for being the top finisher at the 2010 Boston Marathon. However, Bill Khan discovered that Dr. Litton has likely cheated, thus he altered his article to highlight the next local finisher, Larry Gutierrrez of Fenton, Michigan. Dr. Litton's times are still listed at the bottom of the article, however.

>>>Dr. Litton is the subject of an article in a national magazine that is still in the works.

Dr. Litton is a good man. We're told that he is God fearing and that he is what is right about Gennessee County. If Dr. Litton wants to manage public relations effectively, he should admit he made some mistakes in judgement, perhaps because of stressful times (we all have them) and apologize to the citizens of Genessee County Michigan, the Flint Journal, & Bill Khan, during this difficult time. He deserves our understanding and sympathy.

Trollist wrote:

Dr. Litton is a great man who wouldn't even make an illegal left turn, let alone cheat thousands of people in a major race. I don't know if it's that all you losers are jealous of his career success; his racing success; or that all of your wives wish you were him, but it's really not fair to defame such a great man because of your own inadequacies.

I vowed to a few friends that I would try to stay away from this thread and stop posting pathetic obsessive Litton rants. But I'm so glad I came back to read Trollist's last post. You've all got to admit it, in the world of troll posts, this one is the simplest, most beautiful and on-point one you've ever read. I'm not being sarcastic - this one was outstanding. I'm going to toss down three or four 24-oz cans of Schlitz High Gravity VSL in his honor tonight. I have to face the truth that my wife may really wish that I were him, and I can only do that with Schlitz, the malt liquor of my childhood.

Here's to you, Trollist. Tomorrow morning will not be fun.

Dr. Litton's Way Out wrote:

>>>Dr. Litton took over 4 minutes to cross the starting line at the BAA 2010 5K, and crossed the finish in 17:17 (5:34/mi) net time wearing a blue jacket and black pants.

Without a doubt, this is my favorite part of the whole story.

Runnerrer wrote:

Dr. Litton's Way Out wrote:

>>>Dr. Litton took over 4 minutes to cross the starting line at the BAA 2010 5K, and crossed the finish in 17:17 (5:34/mi) net time wearing a blue jacket and black pants.

Without a doubt, this is my favorite part of the whole story.

Given how God-Fearing he is 'n all that, is the simple explanation that the four minutes were spent in prayer and he was rewarded with GodSpeed ? Does anyone know God's 5K PB?

God-fearing = FOX News & IQ <100

KirkaZ wrote:

Dukerdog, did you select from the 3 winners? Just wondering thanks!

Yes, that's what the 3 pieces of paper in the hat was referring to.

Is this Trollist guy Kip and a good demonstration of Kip's own DSM-IV or.....is it some letsrun regular just having fun with us? Gotta be one or the other.

I'm a Kipaholic too

Is there really a brother named kent? We know there's a kurt.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003067403318

No offense, but just wondering - Is this link a real person or is this Kip taking a pic of himself while he was in West Wyoming?

MANY people have cheated in races and will continue to, regardless of whatever safe guards are put in place as their defense is to just deny it.

But...making up races that don't exist and finishing in front of runners that you never passed, that's another level altogether. To top it off, starting from so far back, and of course never being seen flying by anyone, NOT even one runner, is again, another level altogether.

That's the difference between this guy and dozens of others.

Someone posted about the old guy Oscar ?, getting caught a few decades ago. He denied it too but even without being "spotted" by people at check points along the way and not showing up on anyone's video, Will Cloney had balls and dq'ed him. The difference today is very few race director will do what he did whether he hits mats or not. Who starts that far back and does that? No one.

Any innocent person would be upset over the accusation and want to prove everyone wrong, but like Oscar and Rosie, they suddenly don't show up at races anymore. Big surprise, right?

I'm surprised that Kip has never come on here to defend accusations .

A year ago his buddies including a Mr Dan Baxley did but they were pretty much shut up in a matter of hours because of the mountain of evidence the guy cheated.

Yes, after over 3500 posts, this post sums it up best. Reality hurts for cheaters.

I agree with what he said, but it won't matter unless he gets caught again. Deny, deny, deny! Hitting the mats is not proof of innocence when your number is always covered and you don't show up on video or photos near the mats at the time you allegedly crossed them. How does one answer to that?

Ummm...they can't?