No, that isn't my "logic". The runners I have compared with Ingebrigtsen are either way way faster over the 5k or have achieved many more global victories than he has in distance events. Until he draws close, by either measure, he isn't comparable.
Cheptegei hasn't been "embarrassed". He holds the world records and achieved a more impressive win in one of his specialty events at the Olympics than did Ingebrigtsen. Ingebrigtsen's boasting followed by being passed in the home straight by 3 other runners at Paris in the 1500 is more of an embarrassment.
You're saying it's more embarrassing for someone who isn't the world record holder to finish fourth than it is for the world record holder to finish 9th? What on Earth are you talking about? What makes Cheptegeis win more impressive than any of Jakobs global gold medals?
Cheptegei was winning medals despite bad form going into finals. Jakob was losing medals despite top form going into finals. 🙄🙄
No time is measured to that absurd degree. By several tenths of a second and a few hundredths Ingebrigtsen is not a 3:26 runner. A 10.2 runner over the 100m is just as close to Bolt's world record. The claim that Ingebrigtsen is a 3:26 runner is misleading here because it is the world record and the only runner who is a 3:26 runner so far is El G and Ingebrigtsen has not equalled his world mark.
You once said your Mile PB is 4:30
Did you run 4:30.00?
No, I didn't say that. You just made that up. I have never indicated what I ran a mile in. But it is irrelevant. I wasn't trying to challenge any record, where seconds or fractions of a second count.
He is an outstanding md runner - although not as good as El G. He is a 1500/5k exponent - whatever claims he makes to the contrary. He has not done anything to show he is a 5k/10k runner like Farah or Bekele, or a marathon runner, which is my understanding of a distance runner.
He may have a faster time than Farah over 5k but Farah's global championship victories in both the 5k and the 10k leave him in the dust as a distance runner.
Last I checked the 5000 is a long distance event and not a middle distance event, so yes, never losing in the 5000 makes him a distance runner.
And your definition of "leaving him in the dust" is having one more Olympic gold and one more Worlds gold than someone who's four years younger than what Farah was when he won his first global gold?
The 5k is a distance event for a 5k/10k runner. That isn't Ingebrigtsen. He is a 1500/5k runner, which is a md runner. He hasn't lost 5k races because he's hardly run any. If he did he would certainly lose, like he does in the 1500.
Your age comparisons are just more irrelevant bs. Farah remains far ahead of Ingebrigtsen for global championship golds.
No, that isn't my "logic". The runners I have compared with Ingebrigtsen are either way way faster over the 5k or have achieved many more global victories than he has in distance events. Until he draws close, by either measure, he isn't comparable.
Cheptegei hasn't been "embarrassed". He holds the world records and achieved a more impressive win in one of his specialty events at the Olympics than did Ingebrigtsen. Ingebrigtsen's boasting followed by being passed in the home straight by 3 other runners at Paris in the 1500 is more of an embarrassment.
You're saying it's more embarrassing for someone who isn't the world record holder to finish fourth than it is for the world record holder to finish 9th? What on Earth are you talking about? What makes Cheptegeis win more impressive than any of Jakobs global gold medals?
Cheptegei's 10k gold was more impressive than Ingebrigtsen's 5k gold. It was a way tougher faster race for a start. Ingebrigtsen's 4th came in his specialty event that he expected to win, that he ran like it was a wr attempt. He got buried at the finish.
Quite apart from that, as I said, Ingebrigtsen is simply not in the same ball park timewise as Cheptegei over the 5k. Nor Bekele, who was an even better runner.
Ingebrigtsen has established no claim to being a great distance runner. He remains a md runner. None of your cr*p indicates otherwise.
You're saying it's more embarrassing for someone who isn't the world record holder to finish fourth than it is for the world record holder to finish 9th? What on Earth are you talking about? What makes Cheptegeis win more impressive than any of Jakobs global gold medals?
Cheptegei's 10k gold was more impressive than Ingebrigtsen's 5k gold. It was a way tougher faster race for a start. Ingebrigtsen's 4th came in his specialty event that he expected to win, that he ran like it was a wr attempt. He got buried at the finish.
Quite apart from that, as I said, Ingebrigtsen is simply not in the same ball park timewise as Cheptegei over the 5k. Nor Bekele, who was an even better runner.
Ingebrigtsen has established no claim to being a great distance runner. He remains a md runner. None of your cr*p indicates otherwise.
There you go again with bringing up the 10k in a discussion about the 5k. At least you're admitting that it's not impressive to beat Cheptegei in the 5k, even though you've spent the last couple of pages talking about how he's the current best 5k runner on the planet because of the world record and how he belongs in the discussion with people like Farah and Bekele.
And no, the 5k doesn't stop being a distance event if a 15/5k runner runs it compared to a 5k/10k runner. Words have definitions.
Last I checked the 5000 is a long distance event and not a middle distance event, so yes, never losing in the 5000 makes him a distance runner.
And your definition of "leaving him in the dust" is having one more Olympic gold and one more Worlds gold than someone who's four years younger than what Farah was when he won his first global gold?
The 5k is a distance event for a 5k/10k runner. That isn't Ingebrigtsen.
5000m IS a distance event for everybody, for the pope as well as for Madonna.
Last I checked the 5000 is a long distance event and not a middle distance event, so yes, never losing in the 5000 makes him a distance runner.
And your definition of "leaving him in the dust" is having one more Olympic gold and one more Worlds gold than someone who's four years younger than what Farah was when he won his first global gold?
The 5k is a distance event for a 5k/10k runner. That isn't Ingebrigtsen. He is a 1500/5k runner, which is a md runner. He hasn't lost 5k races because he's hardly run any. If he did he would certainly lose, like he does in the 1500.
Your age comparisons are just more irrelevant bs. Farah remains far ahead of Ingebrigtsen for global championship golds.
You're getting Jakob confused with Cheptegei, who has both dropped out of multiple global 5k finals because he didn't feel like running them and has gotten embarrassed badly in multiple global 5k finals that he did run.
Great record from one of the all-time great distance runners - but far from "perfect".
Absolutely comparable to Ingebrigtsen, who so far was a 1500m/5000m runner who also has had great results (but also far from "perfect").
Ingebrigtsen is four years younger than Cheptegei, and we have to wait what he can do in the years to come.
For sure the 5000m WR is a REALISTIC possibility. The 10000m and longer is pure speculation (also he has shown some signs of very good endurance - but will it be enough to be competitive with "the Africans"?
Great record from one of the all-time great distance runners - but far from "perfect".
Absolutely comparable to Ingebrigtsen, who so far was a 1500m/5000m runner who also has had great results (but also far from "perfect").
Ingebrigtsen is four years younger than Cheptegei, and we have to wait what he can do in the years to come.
For sure the 5000m WR is a REALISTIC possibility. The 10000m and longer is pure speculation (also he has shown some signs of very good endurance - but will it be enough to be competitive with "the Africans"?
It's certainly possible to believe that having the world record and being an Olympic champion makes you the best in the event, it's just not believable when it's coming from Army because he applies a different set of criteria to every single runner because the only thing he's concerned with is downplaying Jakob.
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