Isn't the term "lynching" in these contexts commonly understood to mean an extra-judicial killing claimed to have been done under the cloak of some authority and endorsed to some degree by the local populace? I believe that's the image people are trying to evoke when they use the term "lynching." I don't think lynching is meant to encompass every time a white person kills or attempts to kill a black person. That would dilute the word of all meaning. So that's why the consequences the killer faces would matter as to the definition.
If you're black are you safer walking down the street in Chicago / Baltimore / DC or in a 'redneck' small town?
^ So long as people are this oblivious to reality there's no hope for the future.
More black people were murdered by other black people in Chicago/Baltimore/DC while I typed this than have been killed in small "redneck" towns all year long and probably in the last 20 years.
If you're black are you safer walking down the street in Chicago / Baltimore / DC or in a 'redneck' small town?
^ So long as people are this oblivious to reality there's no hope for the future.
More black people were murdered by other black people in Chicago/Baltimore/DC while I typed this than have been killed in small "redneck" towns all year long and probably in the last 20 years.
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You're only allowed to talk about it if they are killed by a cop, preferably while *innocently* committing a crime.
Isn't the term "lynching" in these contexts commonly understood to mean an extra-judicial killing claimed to have been done under the cloak of some authority and endorsed to some degree by the local populace? I believe that's the image people are trying to evoke when they use the term "lynching." I don't think lynching is meant to encompass every time a white person kills or attempts to kill a black person. That would dilute the word of all meaning. So that's why the consequences the killer faces would matter as to the definition.
If you're black are you safer walking down the street in Chicago / Baltimore / DC or in a 'redneck' small town?
What does you question/post have to do with my post?
And why can't you phrase your post as a statement, rather than as a silly attempt at a rhetorical question? (Yes, that's a rhetorical question). Just say what you believe the answer to your question is, and I can tell you whether I agree, disagree, or don't know. That's how normal people discuss stuff.
My dad’s white American ancestry goes back 300 years. He graduated from a public school. Then volunteered to join the military and served seven years. He left the military and worked a crappy factory job that started at 10 dollars an hour until retirement. There was always food on the table and he was always a loving father.
I went to public school and then to college. I received not a single cent from my parents towards college. It took 15 years but I payed off my college loans by myself.
I’m as white as they come. What white privilege do I have?
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This is a perfect example of white privilege!! Let a black person drive a mile after cops light up the sirens…pull in their garage and jump out the car. At worst they would be DEAD…..at best they would have been staring down the barrel of a Glock.
Another example of white privilege is killing nine innocent people in a church and instead of the cops filling you with holes when captured….they take you to BURGER KING!!
This is a perfect example of white privilege!! Let a black person drive a mile after cops light up the sirens…pull in their garage and jump out the car. At worst they would be DEAD…..at best they would have been staring down the barrel of a Glock.
Another example of white privilege is killing nine innocent people in a church and instead of the cops filling you with holes when captured….they take you to BURGER KING!!
How many white on black homicides per year? Compare to black on black
No, that's not what lynching means. It does not have to be "done under the cloak of some authority and endorsed to some degree by the local populace."
I think I did a reasonable job of answering your question.
Keep in mind that some people, including you apparently, are already expanding the definition of "lynching" to include, e.g., killings committed with a gun or a vehicle, in order to analogize and evoke powerful images of extra-judicial lynchings of blacks in the South circa 1880s-1930s. So it shouldn't be surprising to you when someone else points out to you all the reasons that, e.g., Ahmad Marberry wasn't "lynched," even under your new, expansive view of the term. If every black person killed by a white person is said to have been "lynched," then you've reduced the term to something quite meaningless (and, in my opinion, done a disservice to those who actually were "lynched").
I don't think you did a good job of answering my question. I asked where you got the idea, and you gave me no information on where you got the idea. You just reiterated your own idea. If your last sentence is any indication of your interpretation of my interpretation, then you haven't been reading the thread.
If you're black are you safer walking down the street in Chicago / Baltimore / DC or in a 'redneck' small town?
^ So long as people are this oblivious to reality there's no hope for the future.
More black people were murdered by other black people in Chicago/Baltimore/DC while I typed this than have been killed in small "redneck" towns all year long and probably in the last 20 years.
May I ask what type of disability causes you to take hours to type in those sentences? I don’t think I would have that type of dedication to letsrun…
This case would actually be a lynching unlike the James Byrd Jr. case if they had just run him down and killed him. They did not.
Aubrey is only dead because he attacked one of the idiots.
I don’t think the three white hicks intended to kill Ahmaud that day, but they showed up with guns to enact some vigilante justice, provoking the situation where they ended up shooting him. It’s a lynching for sure. James Byrd Jr also struggled against the guys who murdered him. I’m sure many did
The absolutely most important thing to make something lynching is the support of The courts and police which means known as punished. If the perpetrators are punished it can no longer be a lynching.
My dad’s white American ancestry goes back 300 years. He graduated from a public school. Then volunteered to join the military and served seven years. He left the military and worked a crappy factory job that started at 10 dollars an hour until retirement. There was always food on the table and he was always a loving father.
I went to public school and then to college. I received not a single cent from my parents towards college. It took 15 years but I payed off my college loans by myself.
I’m as white as they come. What white privilege do I have?
Put it this way. Assume you’re reborn into a middle class family. What race would you want to be born as, and why?
Are you kidding? I'm at the OP but I would choose black for sure. You could bumble your way through school barely passing to be handed a full ride scholarship to any college you want where you can also bumble your way to barely passing and then we handed any job because you need to fill a quota. Once you get that job as long as you don't commit a crime, wish I know would be very hard for me in my reborn estate, you can't even be fired because everyone's afraid you'd sue them.
You declared with zero knowledge that they weren't concerned neighbors.
Do you actually think they were just driving all over Georgia looking for a black guy to string up?
Do you actually think they would have attacked him had he been white?
Absolutely. In fact they probably would have been more likely to attack a white person because they'd be less worried about being called racist for doing the right thing and confronting a criminal who was worthless.
I suspect they’re so busy being successful in the United States of White Privilege, they don’t even think about your question.
I have been busy being successful in the United States of White Privilege, but I have thought about the many instances of blatant and not-so-blatant racial prejudice I have faced in this country.
And I guess many Asian Immigrants would agree.
What Asian Americans would agree with is that the greatest source of racism and adversity they face comes from dysfunctional black culture and its sympathizers in media and academia. But since they too are so busy being successful, they no doubt would be grateful you’re worrying about that for them.
As a brown person who grew up in the bad side of town, I don’t really think that white privileged is really a thing anymore. Nowadays in America it’s more about your class and wealth than the color of your skin. The white kids from the trailer parks who went to the inner city school that I did had as much opportunity as the brown, Asian or black kid in the same school/part of town. We were all struggling. The experiences of a rich black kid is vastly different from the experiences of a poor black kid. Same with white, Asian and brown kids. Again, it’s a matter of class, wealth and all that give access to that matters now.
I went to a black African country this year for 2 weeks (not as a tourist) and I didn’t feel any “white privilege”. All the people wanted was my money , there was no respect and smiles are all fake. Even at the airport they followed me around the bathroom and said hey how are you doing and then as I walked out stuck their hand out for tips. Annoying, disrespectful entitled beggars. If there is respect as a white person it’s superficial and simply over getting some money. That was my experience in one country in Africa don’t know about Arab or other Muslim countries.
I think I did a reasonable job of answering your question.
Keep in mind that some people, including you apparently, are already expanding the definition of "lynching" to include, e.g., killings committed with a gun or a vehicle, in order to analogize and evoke powerful images of extra-judicial lynchings of blacks in the South circa 1880s-1930s. So it shouldn't be surprising to you when someone else points out to you all the reasons that, e.g., Ahmad Marberry wasn't "lynched," even under your new, expansive view of the term. If every black person killed by a white person is said to have been "lynched," then you've reduced the term to something quite meaningless (and, in my opinion, done a disservice to those who actually were "lynched").
I don't think you did a good job of answering my question. I asked where you got the idea, and you gave me no information on where you got the idea.
I still think I did a good job, but you're right in that I didn't give you the genesis of the idea. Maybe it was whoever wrote this:
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I don't know. It's a pretty common (and logical and supportable) idea was my point. Not sure it's genesis matters much. But I've certainly tried to answer your question again.
If your last sentence is any indication of your interpretation of my interpretation, then you haven't been reading the thread.
True. My mistake. We have no idea what you think is any common understanding of what a "lynching" is. You're just here to ask questions, not express opinions.
Here, I rewrote the offending paragraph and sentence to exclude any attribution to you:
Keep in mind that some people (not you, of course) are already expanding the definition of "lynching" to include, e.g., killings committed with a gun or a vehicle, in order to analogize and evoke powerful images of extra-judicial lynchings of blacks in the South circa 1880s-1930s. So it shouldn't be surprising to anyone when someone else points out to someone all the reasons that, e.g., Ahmad Marberry wasn't "lynched," even under their new, expansive view of the term. If every black person killed by a white person is said to have been "lynched," then people other than you have reduced the term to something quite meaningless (and, in my opinion, done a disservice to those who actually were "lynched").
I’m as white as they come. What white privilege do I have?
Today, in all western countries with the most equality, with no laws against other races, there is still an advantage for you not only if you are white, but if your surname indicates that you could be white.
A study by Andrew Leigh et al (former prof at ANU now cabinet minister in Australian govt), using fake job applications for entry level waiting, data entry, customer service and sales jobs, and varying only the surname, resulted it the following. 35% of Anglo Saxon sounding names received interview call backs. Chinese-named applicants would need 68 per cent more applications than an Anglo-named applicant to get the same number of calls back, Middle Eastern-named applicants 64 per cent more, indigenous-named applicant 35 per cent more, Italian-named applicant 12 per cent more. African sounding? Sorry, you need >200% more applications.
This sub concious bias comes from people like you the OP, who somehow cannot see any advantage in being 'less recent and more established', or as your former and future President calls them, from deplorable '****' holes.
Otherwise, hey its all hunky dory, we all play footie together , share a drink etc. What privilege? My best friend is (insert colour here)
This is a perfect example of white privilege!! Let a black person drive a mile after cops light up the sirens…pull in their garage and jump out the car. At worst they would be DEAD…..at best they would have been staring down the barrel of a Glock.
Another example of white privilege is killing nine innocent people in a church and instead of the cops filling you with holes when captured….they take you to BURGER KING!!
How many white on black homicides per year? Compare to black on black
I don't know. It's a pretty common (and logical and supportable) idea was my point. Not sure it's genesis matters much. But I've certainly tried to answer your question again.
If your last sentence is any indication of your interpretation of my interpretation, then you haven't been reading the thread.
True. My mistake. We have no idea what you think is any common understanding of what a "lynching" is. You're just here to ask questions, not express opinions.
Here, I rewrote the offending paragraph and sentence to exclude any attribution to you:
Keep in mind that some people (not you, of course) are already expanding the definition of "lynching" to include, e.g., killings committed with a gun or a vehicle, in order to analogize and evoke powerful images of extra-judicial lynchings of blacks in the South circa 1880s-1930s. So it shouldn't be surprising to anyone when someone else points out to someone all the reasons that, e.g., Ahmad Marberry wasn't "lynched," even under their new, expansive view of the term. If every black person killed by a white person is said to have been "lynched," then people other than you have reduced the term to something quite meaningless (and, in my opinion, done a disservice to those who actually were "lynched").
Neither of your links support your supposed common understanding. Neither of the definitions mention any type of public support of the murder being essential to the definition.
This is a perfect example of white privilege!! Let a black person drive a mile after cops light up the sirens…pull in their garage and jump out the car. At worst they would be DEAD…..at best they would have been staring down the barrel of a Glock.
Another example of white privilege is killing nine innocent people in a church and instead of the cops filling you with holes when captured….they take you to BURGER KING!!
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