Glowing so bright, need those ZZ Top glasses.
Skeptically speaking of course.
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Glowing so bright, need those ZZ Top glasses.
Skeptically speaking of course.
What is sad is the Wiley apologists blathering away on here while she pulls the rug out from under their feet, acting in such a blatant and indiscrete manner that she makes a mockery of the idea that she isn't cheating. I had this pegged right from the onset. I knew they would not even try to keep up the facade in their all out, dope to success scheme.
simple questions with simple answers wrote:
Can you tell us what DL meet she has been invited to?
Here, answered my own question:
https://brussels.diamondleague.com/en/programme-results-brussels/
In the 1500
Go Adds! wrote:
Did you do any other digging?
No, but feel free to enlighten us.
astro wrote:
the Wiley apologists ...
"Wiley apologists" or maybe just fans of the sport that extend benefit of the doubt to performances until there's sufficient evidence to cease doing so.
So based on her time in Europe now. guess I am confused at Addy's status at HU.
She is listed on the fall XC roster. I am also assuming that HU has started fall classes.
Legitimate questions are -
1. Is she enrolled at HU this fall and if so, is she attending classes remotely?
2. Is she running XC at HU this fall?
If anyone knows, please contribute here.
"Fans". A handful of lackeys with a vpn and a couple of the resident yahoos who would not recognize rhe endemic doping issue in this sport if it fell on them from orbit. Hopefully other athletes don't go the dope to succeed route.
No, I didn't dig further as a result of that post, but there were a lot of claims made that I thought that those who are not pro-Wiley (like Astro) would look into and pick apart (if the claims were false). Then, you just said that you did dig further, but you only mentioned the Jordan part. Given all that was said, it surprises me that you would focus in on that and nothing else. Why so?
Go pro and at least have the decency to get this cancer out of college distance running.
astro wrote:
Go pro and at least have the decency to get this cancer out of college distance running.
Like her or not, Astro, "get this cancer out of college distance running" is a poor choice of words to use about someone that had cancer.
There are areas where gun violence is a problem. Everyone knows it. Nevertheless, a person can't just go in and make reasonable accusations just based on their profile, right?
That's where we are in this argument. You say it's foolish not to, and I say specific evidence is required to not have any reasonable doubt.
Sorry but I got over the cancer survivor schtick watching Armstrong's career. Lots of people have illness, including cancer. You would be surprised.
Go Adds! wrote:
No, I didn't dig further as a result of that post, but there were a lot of claims made that I thought that those who are not pro-Wiley (like Astro) would look into and pick apart (if the claims were false). Then, you just said that you did dig further, but you only mentioned the Jordan part. Given all that was said, it surprises me that you would focus in on that and nothing else. Why so?
Because the post stated that Jordan had a criminal record. I wasn’t really buying everything that post implicated, so I thought one thing that might be easy to fact check was whether or not Jordan had a criminal record by checking MyCase. But (unsurprisingly) there’s more than one Craig Jordan. So, it’s a little unclear which Craig Jordans might be the Craig Jordan from the post (if any). Idk where all he’s lived etc. But I did post that lawsuit because I came across it in my search.
Exactly what else do you need? We have very suspicious times run in very suspicious circumstances for coaches who have been directly implicated in doping athletes and worse by an athlete who made the conscious choice to raze her reputation to the ground solely to "run fast." The elusive positive test would be the cherry on top, but this is already absurd.
Daily Update provided a good answer on why some are slow to answer your reasonable questions. After seeing the overwhelming number of misinformed people make assumption on top of assumption regarding Wiley and then speak as though they were speaking on her behalf (lol), it feels wrong to continue the gossip. She plainly speaks for herself and is very open in her interviews as well as on her social media.
astro wrote:
Exactly what else do you need? We have very suspicious times run in very suspicious circumstances for coaches who have been directly implicated in doping athletes and worse by an athlete who made the conscious choice to raze her reputation to the ground solely to "run fast." The elusive positive test would be the cherry on top, but this is already absurd.
What I don’t understand is why are you so insecure? The reason I know you are so insecure is you want recognition as having spotted a doper. You repeat yourself over and over again. She is doping, you say. You have been vindicated you say. I understood you the first time. Why the incessant repetition? And of course you can never be proven incorrect. If she passes drug tests it is no proof she is clean. If she fails you will post nonstop for a couple weeks. So you win either way in your mind.
That makes sense. It seemed to me that the sheriff and judge connection, and the Matt Ditzler part could be confirmed. Then, obviously the comments about Stoffel falsely accusing her dad of rape (along with the attempt to sue him and subsequent loss!) was the most eyebrow-raising thing in the screed. It seemed like that could be easily verifiable to anyone who actually wanted to get to the truth.
Go Adds! wrote:
That makes sense. It seemed to me that the sheriff and judge connection, and the Matt Ditzler part could be confirmed. Then, obviously the comments about Stoffel falsely accusing her dad of rape (along with the attempt to sue him and subsequent loss!) was the most eyebrow-raising thing in the screed. It seemed like that could be easily verifiable to anyone who actually wanted to get to the truth.
Hmmm well with the Stoffel stuff, the post only mentioned that she made “allegations” against her dad. I didn’t see that it specifically said what allegations or that she tried to sue him. Did I miss that? I could have, it’s a long post.
Idk how to check the whole Ditzler thing. I do know he doesn’t coach at HNHS anymore (as far as I know).
The sheriff/judge connection could probably be verified. But to me, that doesn’t necessarily implicate any wrongdoing.
Idk the whole post was a lot of small town politics, and filled with things that I feel people from the outside looking in would have a hard time understanding without truly digging into it (I.e. actually interviewing the parties involved). Maybe one day someone will make a documentary about it.
simple questions with simple answers wrote:
So based on her time in Europe now. guess I am confused at Addy's status at HU.
She is listed on the fall XC roster. I am also assuming that HU has started fall classes.
Legitimate questions are -
1. Is she enrolled at HU this fall and if so, is she attending classes remotely?
2. Is she running XC at HU this fall?
If anyone knows, please contribute here.
Looks like HU's classes started a week ago Monday (Aug 28). Curious about the academic piece (and XC status for this fall) as well.
https://www.huntington.edu/uploads/documents/academic_calendar_undergraduate_2023-2027.pdf
simple questions with simple answers wrote:
So based on her time in Europe now. guess I am confused at Addy's status at HU.
She is listed on the fall XC roster. I am also assuming that HU has started fall classes.
Legitimate questions are -
1. Is she enrolled at HU this fall and if so, is she attending classes remotely?
2. Is she running XC at HU this fall?
If anyone knows, please contribute here.
1. She is enrolled at HU, and is attending classes in person, as a normal college student-athlete.
2. Yes, she is running XC. Probably won’t see her often, or even until NAIA Nationals.