Stop lying to yourselves about ATHING MU, she has WR potential

Sopa de Sabadell wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

No woman has.

Not that I agree, but you don' know that. The fact that noone has done it yet is not an indicator of the impossible.

We just saw a woman run a 29:01 10000m. Worth a 1:52 800m in the IAAF scoring table.

Sometime ago people thought a 4min mile for men was impossible.

Correction: no woman who isn't doped is capable of running sub-1.50.

29mins by a woman for the 10k - Zatopek level - is doped.

BTW, 1.53x is doped. Sub-1.50 is impossible.

April 13 th Athing opened her outdoor season running a 9 second on 1500m of 4:16.06. A te many Div 1 female 1500m runners would love. That 1500m came just 22-23 days after her 2nd place 400m indoors and winning 4x400m NCAA anchor. 2 weeks after her 1500m outdoor debut she busted a 1:57.73 on with a huge negative spilt of 60/57. Then she ran only 400m and 400m getting faster in every meet to top it off with a 49.5pb.

She is a long way from peaked or overtrained if anything we have yet to get an idea of what she is capable of in the 800m outdoors. I keep saying 1:55.5-1:56.2 but honestly if she threaten the world record I wouldn't be surprised. I thought SYDNEY McLAUGHLIN had scary potential as. teenager then along came Athing My (she is so talented, I. (She could go 48.9 if she targeted JUST the 400m this year.) sometimes think is this young lady real?). Yeah she is real and as she said, "Her time is now".

ATHING MU turns PRO!!!!

U.S. most talented 800m teenager turns PRO 6/20/2021. How ironic and she never contested an 800m at NCAA Championships.

U S. 800m women's American Record of 1:55.61 will fall in 2021.

1:56.07 AJR, Olympic Trials Champion and Athing will go faster in 2021, Ajee American Record is living on borrowed time. Athing is the greatest American 800m talent ever.

I look forward to continuing to bump this thread.

That 1:56 was freakish. 100 degree+ temps, tripped, not even remotely pushed, after 2 sub 2s in the previous 3 days. You have to think that she was capable of sub 1:55 last night.

You would have to be living under a rock to not acknowledge she has a shot at the record. If I was a betting man I would say next year but it would not shock me to see it go down at the olympics.

The question isn't can she break Ajee Wilson American Record of 1:55.61 bit by how much will she take of the record. I don't see her breaking the WR this year but she definitely can go sub 1:55. Hopefully she surprises me and go faster then I expect.

Five weeks til her Olympic final alot can happen fitness wise. I think all 3 Americans can improve on their times in Tokyo and possibly snag 2 of the 3 Olympic medals.

Armstronglivs wrote:

BTW, 1.53x is doped. Sub-1.50 is impossible.

Clean 1:54 this year in Tokyo.

Clean 1:52 WR in the next 2 years.

Sopa de SabadelI wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

BTW, 1.53x is doped. Sub-1.50 is impossible.

Clean 1:54 this year in Tokyo.

Clean 1:52 WR in the next 2 years.

Possible but I fancy 1:53 for her; she has the Rudisha thing of looking ridiculously easy doing world class times but that doesn't mean there aren't any limits.

I wonder whether any of the xenophobic conspiracy idiots on here will start rethinking the slander they've sent Pamela Jelimo's way over the years?

Sopa de SabadelI wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

BTW, 1.53x is doped. Sub-1.50 is impossible.

Clean 1:54 this year in Tokyo.

Clean 1:52 WR in the next 2 years.

You're dreaming. Mu is a great talent but she was flat to the boards at 1.56x - which still isn't the American record. There is no way she carves 3 secs off that time to beat the wr - unless she is doped. Even another second off her present best is a big ask.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Sopa de SabadelI wrote:

Clean 1:54 this year in Tokyo.

Clean 1:52 WR in the next 2 years.

You're dreaming. Mu is a great talent but she was flat to the boards at 1.56x - which still isn't the American record. There is no way she carves 3 secs off that time to beat the wr - unless she is doped. Even another second off her present best is a big ask.

She was not flat to the boards. She didn't have a race with a pacemaker, she conserved energy for most of the race, she got tripped around 100m in.

In yesterday's shape, in a race with a dedicated pacemaker and perfect weather she could have run at least 1:54:99

You have the worst takes Armstrong. Both about politics and running. Literally the worst. And this is coming from someone who generally agrees with you about many things! Let your last comment stand as a testament to your wrongness. It will be bumped and quoted relentlessly.

1) It was 100+ degrees.

2) This was her 3rd race in 4 days and her 6th race in like 8 days. All of these were quality efforts and although strong she definitely leans more on the 400 side of the spectrum than the 1500.

3) She was tripped.

4) She ran a good portion of the first 400 weaving around.

5) She wasn’t pressed at all in the last 100.

You have been completely wrong thus far on this thread and will continue to be wrong. Why you ask? Because you have literally the worst takes about everything.

wh6je56j wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

You're dreaming. Mu is a great talent but she was flat to the boards at 1.56x - which still isn't the American record. There is no way she carves 3 secs off that time to beat the wr - unless she is doped. Even another second off her present best is a big ask.

She was not flat to the boards. She didn't have a race with a pacemaker, she conserved energy for most of the race, she got tripped around 100m in.

In yesterday's shape, in a race with a dedicated pacemaker and perfect weather she could have run at least 1:54:99

You're wrong. She followed the leaders - her "pacemakers" - through the first lap in a fast 57x, poured it on in the 3rd 200 and then gave it everything in the last 150m. Just under 59s for the second lap. A fantastic finish but she was holding nothing back. "Perfect conditions" don't exist unless the athlete is in perfect shape - which she is. The Olympic final may not be run as fast as 1.56. If Mu gets to 1.55 I will be impressed. I think it possible. But even taking fractions off now will be hard.

highhoppingworm wrote:

You have the worst takes Armstrong. Both about politics and running. Literally the worst. And this is coming from someone who generally agrees with you about many things! Let your last comment stand as a testament to your wrongness. It will be bumped and quoted relentlessly.

1) It was 100+ degrees.

2) This was her 3rd race in 4 days and her 6th race in like 8 days. All of these were quality efforts and although strong she definitely leans more on the 400 side of the spectrum than the 1500.

3) She was tripped.

4) She ran a good portion of the first 400 weaving around.

5) She wasn’t pressed at all in the last 100.

You have been completely wrong thus far on this thread and will continue to be wrong. Why you ask? Because you have literally the worst takes about everything.

Wrong about what? Something that hadn't happened yet? Did she break the world mark and I missed it?

I never said she wasn't capable of 1.56. I said earlier in the thread she could get down to 1.55 before long. But 1.53 is on another planet. No one gets that mark without juicing.

She ran a perfect race in the final. Tripped? It cost her nothing. She was well positioned throughout the race and ran it on her terms. I saw her giving it everything to the line. As I said, 1.55 is possible. But most of you have no idea how hard Kratochvilova's world mark is - virtually 3 seconds faster than Mu has run. Only a burrito will enable her to beat that.

Some of you here are letting fan adulation scramble your brains.

Armstronglivs wrote:

If Mu gets to 1.55 I will be impressed. I think it possible. But even taking fractions off now will be hard.

She was a student - a part time athlete - until a few days ago. She turned 19 less than a month ago.

Aside from the outliers Jelimo and Amos, the world's great 800 runners all took multiple seconds off their PRs from this point.

Of course you'll ignore this because you're an idiot.

thinkingdrinkingsinking wrote:

Sopa de SabadelI wrote:

Clean 1:54 this year in Tokyo.

Clean 1:52 WR in the next 2 years.

Possible but I fancy 1:53 for her; she has the Rudisha thing of looking ridiculously easy doing world class times but that doesn't mean there aren't any limits.

I wonder whether any of the xenophobic conspiracy idiots on here will start rethinking the slander they've sent Pamela Jelimo's way over the years?

Forget xenophobia. At 18 Jelimo was a full 2secs faster than Mu ran today. Then she never got close to that time. Do you think a clean runner a year younger than a talent like Mu is 2 secs faster - a full 15m ahead at the finish? I don't.

Armstronglivs wrote:

But 1.53 is on another planet. No one gets that mark without juicing.

"No one can break world records without cheating, let's just stop the sport now."

You clown.

profanosaurus wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

If Mu gets to 1.55 I will be impressed. I think it possible. But even taking fractions off now will be hard.

She was a student - a part time athlete - until a few days ago. She turned 19 less than a month ago.

Aside from the outliers Jelimo and Amos, the world's great 800 runners all took multiple seconds off their PRs from this point.

Of course you'll ignore this because you're an idiot.

No, they didnt. Data was produced earlier in the thread that showed prodigies like Mu only took fractions off their teenage times - an average of .25secs. You should try informing yourself.

profanosaurus wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

But 1.53 is on another planet. No one gets that mark without juicing.

"No one can break world records without cheating, let's just stop the sport now."

You clown.

You got the first part right, that world records are doped. Accepting it will take you a while longer - and a bit more education beyond the surface of what you are seeing.