Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Fat hurts wrote:

Little help? wrote:

Can someone please tell me the specific regulation that he broke?

You can read the indictment yourself.

Thanks! This steered me in the right direction.

It still took a (long) while to get all the info, and I won't paste the statutes here, but the upshot is that Cohen was the "willful cause" of an unlawful corporate contribution (from the National Enquirer? not clear to me) to the Trump campaign--a corporation can't make a contribution directly to a presidential candidate--and he also knowingly made an excessive campaign contribution far above the $2,700 limit.

Again, thanks for pointing me the right way. I have relatives saying "so he paid a couple of women, so what?" and didn't have the specific info to answer the question.

Little help? wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

You can read the indictment yourself.

Thanks! This steered me in the right direction.

It still took a (long) while to get all the info, and I won't paste the statutes here, but the upshot is that Cohen was the "willful cause" of an unlawful corporate contribution (from the National Enquirer? not clear to me) to the Trump campaign--a corporation can't make a contribution directly to a presidential candidate--and he also knowingly made an excessive campaign contribution far above the $2,700 limit.

Again, thanks for pointing me the right way. I have relatives saying "so he paid a couple of women, so what?" and didn't have the specific info to answer the question.

The Trump Organization paid Cohen $420,000 for silencing services in early 2017 (Trump was the president). The invoices were improperly noted as payments for legal services when they were in fact for hush money and presidential election services. Also, Trump has claimed his boys running TrumpOrg had nothing to do with the authorization of any payments to Cohen. Well, only Trump or the boys make payment approvals for TrumpOrg. That would leave Trump as the one who approved payment to Cohen. So much for Trump not involving himself in his businesses after being sworn in.

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

I am the great predictor ....

Very few people could write the above without being ironic/sarcastic after having guaranteed something would happen for months, and months, and months, only to have that 100% guaranteed prediction spectacularly blow up in his face the way it did for Flagpole. Very few (and also after having made MANY other incorrect predictions on this board in the past [Webb won't beat Ritz in 10k, etc, etc] ).

Seriously Flagpole, "the Great Predictor" ???? How about, the great coin flipper?

(I am only giving you grief because while I agree with you here, you have been spectacularly wrong on so many occasions, with the Hillary guarantee still fresh in everyone's mind. And also because you love to make this about YOU. This isn't about you. It's about Trump)

Your point is not lost on me, but I submit that I have NOT been "spectacularly wrong" on so many occasions. Wrong once in a while yes, and I always admit it when I am. So far with Hillary, I am wrong, but I will be proven right as soon as conspiracy (cheating) to help Trump win is proven.

I don't love making anything about me, but when someone calls me out on something that I am right about, I will let them know that they are wrong.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

foo wrote:

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

lol. Brilliant reply to the guy razzing you.

You do understand that a "mistrial" was declared on a bunch of charges because......the jury was not unanimous in finding him guilty on those particular charges, right? It doesn't mean there were any unfair actions by the prosecutor, or judge, or jury.

Don't get your hopes up for "great guy" Manafort. Well, except for the Trump pardon. I'm sure he'll get that.

Also, the prosecution could have requested a retrial on the remaining 10 charges. The did not pursue that option because they felt the had enough to lock Manafort up for quite a long time if not the rest of his life,

last I saw the prosecution has another 6 days to decide if it will ask for another trial.

It ain’t over wrote:

1100 wrote:

"Manafort not guilty on all charges!!!!"

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Did I get that right, 'Manafort acquittal' ? You know, I don't want to be misquoting you.

Manafort has lots of options to pursue. Jury was not sequestered. Mistrial declared on more than half of the charges.

Suck on that, hillary loving fairies.

Really? That's your takeaway? Prosecution COULD go after him again on those other 10 charges if they want to, and he has an unrelated trial next month, and THEN eventually he will probably be tried for conspiracy with Russia for participating in the Trump Tower meeting and perhaps other reasons.

He is currently facing 80 years, but all indications are that the recommendation will be closer to 10 years. For federal crimes you have to serve at least 85% of the sentence, so he's likely going to serve at least 8.5 years on what he has been charged with alone. He is going to add more years to that for sure.

He is very unlikely to get any of those charges dropped.

Where’s the Russian collusion?

Why do we think Manafort opted for a trial and hasn’t yet flipped? Loyalty to Drumpf? Fear of the Russian or Ukrainian mob? Something else?

Curious foreigner wrote:

Why do we think Manafort opted for a trial and hasn’t yet flipped? Loyalty to Drumpf? Fear of the Russian or Ukrainian mob? Something else?

Manafort and Trump have a debt they owe to Russia for Russia helping to rig the election. Manafort likely has money waiting for him in Russia as long as he keeps his mouth shut. Russia wants his silence because they want Trump to continue weakening the US. Putin can then focus his efforts on take overs of the Middle East and Turkey; his end goal.

Voting majority says wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Really? That's your takeaway? Prosecution COULD go after him again on those other 10 charges if they want to, and he has an unrelated trial next month, and THEN eventually he will probably be tried for conspiracy with Russia for participating in the Trump Tower meeting and perhaps other reasons.

He is currently facing 80 years, but all indications are that the recommendation will be closer to 10 years. For federal crimes you have to serve at least 85% of the sentence, so he's likely going to serve at least 8.5 years on what he has been charged with alone. He is going to add more years to that for sure.

He is very unlikely to get any of those charges dropped.

Where’s the Russian collusion?

The Trump Tower meeting. I would not doubt that Cohen has something to back that up. Others as well. The attempt to conspire with Russia all hinges on the Trump Tower meeting and what Trump knew or knows about it. Don’t forget about those who already took deals and pled guilty.

This will continue to play out and Trump will be subpoenaed. It’s going to be another year before this all plays out because I believe Trumps lawyers will fight a subpoena. History is a great predictor of the future.

Alan

More than 300 posts since yesterday morning.

Someone’s Triggered!

In debt to Putin wrote:

Curious foreigner wrote:

Why do we think Manafort opted for a trial and hasn’t yet flipped? Loyalty to Drumpf? Fear of the Russian or Ukrainian mob? Something else?

Manafort and Trump have a debt they owe to Russia for Russia helping to rig the election. Manafort likely has money waiting for him in Russia as long as he keeps his mouth shut. Russia wants his silence because they want Trump to continue weakening the US. Putin can then focus his efforts on take overs of the Middle East and Turkey; his end goal.

People who "rat" on Putin have curiously short life spans.

Voting majority says wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Really? That's your takeaway? Prosecution COULD go after him again on those other 10 charges if they want to, and he has an unrelated trial next month, and THEN eventually he will probably be tried for conspiracy with Russia for participating in the Trump Tower meeting and perhaps other reasons.

He is currently facing 80 years, but all indications are that the recommendation will be closer to 10 years. For federal crimes you have to serve at least 85% of the sentence, so he's likely going to serve at least 8.5 years on what he has been charged with alone. He is going to add more years to that for sure.

He is very unlikely to get any of those charges dropped.

Where’s the Russian collusion?

There isn’t any. The real question is how did law enforcement not previously catch these vicious criminals, Cohen and manafort?

I have it on good authority that Flagpole has NEVER been wrong.

I remember the nutrition thread. Flagpole WAS 100% right. Sorry.

Curious foreigner wrote:

Why do we think Manafort opted for a trial and hasn’t yet flipped? Loyalty to Drumpf? Fear of the Russian or Ukrainian mob? Something else?

One thought is that Trump is innocent and Manafort has nothing to give on Trump.

The more apparent reason is that a pardon from Trump is the best deal he could get.

Trump is speaking glowingly about Manfort right now.

Imagine that. A man is convicted on several counts of fraud and tax evasion and the president of the United States is publicly stating that he feels empathy for him.

He is setting the stage for a pardon.

But Manfort still has another trial in DC to go through.

I assume he'd still have to go through with the trial if he was pardoned now for these convictions.

Can he be pardoned for one trial, convicted for another and then pardoned again?

Answering wrote:

The real question is how did law enforcement not previously catch these vicious criminals, Cohen and manafort?

I've already asked that here.

My best answer is a lack of resources. Or maybe will.

But Mueller was given more resources and had more will.

This also shows that having no criminal record does not mean you haven;t been doing criminal activities.

This relates perfectly to running.

The majority of runners who use PEDs never get caught.

Doesn't mean they are clean.

Of course. The POTUS can pardon anyone for anything at any time. Makes no difference if he already pardoned him for something else earlier.

The video is worth watching (IMHO). A politician giving a sensible response regarding the NFL kneeling.

Video is 4 minutes long.

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1032017750829531142?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1032087668589359105&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.yimg.com%2Fos%2Fyc%2Fhtml%2Fembed-iframe-min.2d7621e2.html

Were they good people? The best people?

L L wrote:

Answering wrote:

The real question is how did law enforcement not previously catch these vicious criminals, Cohen and manafort?

I've already asked that here.

My best answer is a lack of resources. Or maybe will.

But Mueller was given more resources and had more will.

This also shows that having no criminal record does not mean you haven;t been doing criminal activities.

Most people have not tied the pieces of what Trump and the Republicans have been doing to the IRS, and EPA, to see the light.

The IRS has been gutted in terms of the people who carry out tax audits. Never mind that the cost of those people was more than paid pack by the tax cheats they caught. Trump has been under a "forever" audit. By gutting the auditing people Trump makes it much more difficult for people like him (tax cheats) to be caught in the future. Republicans love this as recent indictments of GOPers, and Manafort, have shown.

The EPA is the evil organization that dares to tell Trump how to develop his properties. He has many axes to grind. The EPA has cost him money that would be better off in Trump's pocket--damn the environmental damage; people first, nature last. So, gut, gut, gut away.