Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

SDNY wrote:

Mueller won’t touch Trump. Anyone who thinks differently has a tiny brain.

SDNY? That’s where he’s going down.

"Tiny brain"? I think reasonable people can differ on that.

But yes, SDNY is where Trump is much more likely to face actual (non-impeachment) charges...if he ever does. I don't consider that to be particularly likely.

This is a really long thread, is it the longest in letsrun history yet?

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

Key takeaway from Cohen guilty pleas-

If Justice Dep't guidelines allowed a sitting president to be indicted (or if Trump had lost election), Trump would be being indicted RIGHT NOW for violating campaign finance violations, along with his co-conspirator, felon Michael Cohen.

Guys, guys, guys- be honest with yourselves and at least admit that the 8 counts (of 18) that Manafort was found guilty on have absolutely nothing to do with President Trump. It was all tax and bank fraud from 2010-2014.

To respond to your "key takeaway"- remember, if Trump had lost, there wouldn't have been an investigation into it in the first place, so he would NOT be indicted even then. The investigation only exists because of the conspiracy against the Trump campaign (and democracy in general). It's undeniable that the evidence related to anything "Russia" has clearly swung in the opposite direction, and is exposing the DOJ/FBI personnel conspiring against Trump. It has become a failed framing attempt.

What you crazed TDS folks don't understand is we don't think these guys are boy scouts, and we aren't defending their morality. We simply find the investigation into Russian Colllluuusssion and Obstruction of Justice comical. It was since day 1, and it still is today.

What we're seeing here is the Investigation into Russian Cooollllluuusion doing what it set out to do though:

Bug the sheeit out of Trump, sow doubt in the mind of the public, catch a few guys doing bad things (most likely tax/laundering/etc...well before the Trump campaign), and then come to the resolution that no one can ever actually prove..... "Russians meddled in our election time frame via social media. They did not collude with the president."

And, the mantra rolls on.....

Mueller never.

Clownpole forever.

I think that you are conflating two different things; 1) conservatism and 2) today's GOP.

Today's GOP is a disgrace. Period.

Conservatism is a philosophy and approach to governing that has a long and often honorable history.

We need real conservatives. Just as we need real progressives.

Lawrence O'Donnell of MSNBC seems like he does not like President Trump, he rarely ever says something good about him, neither does Don Lemon or the Young Turks, they are all known for being objective, but with Trump it seems the objectivity they pride themselves on goes out the window.

On the other hand, I have never heard Meseret Defar, Tirunesh Dibaba or Worknesh Kidane say anything negative about President Trump.

Yupp Purrz wrote:

Yes, there is at least one a-hole on this thread....

HI JAMINLOPER!!!

Silly Willy wrote:

To respond to your "key takeaway"- remember, if Trump had lost, there wouldn't have been an investigation into it in the first place, so he would NOT be indicted even then. .

That may be true, or not (they still may have investigated Trump and Cohen due to the revelations from Stormy Daniel, even if he had lost). But either way, the fact remains, that it strongly appears that Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator, with a felon, who violated campaign finance law. He paid off a porn star, with a large amount of $, to illegally influence an election. It's a crime. He's guilty. He lied about it repeatedly.

But it gets worse. I wonder what Mueller or the State of NY found in THESE documents?? ( I guarantee you, lots of Dirty Laundry!)

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"Perhaps even more newsworthy than the guilty plea was the fact that last week the special master in the case finished her review of the documents seized from Cohen’s office and determined that almost none of the documents are protected by attorney-client privilege. Judge Wood formally adopted that finding on Monday.

This means that almost all of these documents will be available to prosecutors investigating the Trump campaign. These documents may prove to be far more valuable and credible than the testimony that Cohen would have provided had he agreed to cooperate."

HI JAMINLOPER!! wrote:

Yupp Purrz wrote:

Yes, there is at least one a-hole on this thread....

HI JAMINLOPER!!!

LOL . . . FYI: Jamin posted under the name Drink F*ck Fight on this tread. That is all you need to know.

HI JAMINLOPER!! wrote:

Yupp Purrz wrote:

Yes, there is at least one a-hole on this thread....

HI JAMINLOPER!!!

Thanks for confirming that you are that one a-hole.

Another of Trump's "good" people gets caught.

Rep. Duncan Hunter [R], wife charged with spending campaign money on personal expenses

The California Republican is accused of using more than $250,000 in campaign funds for family vacations, school tuition, theater tickets and more.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/congressman-duncan-hunter-wife-charged-with-spending-campaign-money-on-personal-expenses/2018/08/21/4dba040a-a591-11e8-a656-943eefab5daf_story.html

Kenneth Starr investigated two years, and his task was looking into the "Whitewater" land deal.

We ended up with Monica Lewinsky.

Get a grip, Trumpdeniers.

Yupp Purrz wrote:

HI JAMINLOPER!! wrote:

HI JAMINLOPER!!!

Thanks for confirming that I AM that one a-hole.

LOL . . . you can add HardLoper. Or do you two come as a cannot-split-them-up set?

I’m not convinced paying off someone for their silence to protect your image during an election is illegal. It won’t necessarily go that way. Trump can easily say the payoff was for silence to protect his family etc

XY wrote:

I’m not convinced paying off someone for their silence to protect your image during an election is illegal. It won’t necessarily go that way. Trump can easily say the payoff was for silence to protect his family etc

You have no clue how the "payoff" was made. The method is illegal. The source of the money is also illegal.

So much losing. Pardons are the new winning!!!

XY wrote:

agip wrote:

Trump will be found guilty of tax evasion and bank fraud.

maybe not by mueller, maybe by NY State.

Yes, the Southern District of NY is the entity most likely to find Trump in violation. I really can’t think of a scenario where Trump could be proven guilty under muellers authority.

the Sourthern District is federal and subject to presidential pardons - I believe the state of NY will take the lead on tax evasion issues because trump cannot be pardoned for them.

It's a good thing for Team Trump that an immigrant was charged with killing a white girl today.

The news is BRUTAL for Trumpland today. Not that they'd know it.

YZ wrote:

XY wrote:

I’m not convinced paying off someone for their silence to protect your image during an election is illegal. It won’t necessarily go that way. Trump can easily say the payoff was for silence to protect his family etc

You have no clue how the "payoff" was made. The method is illegal. The source of the money is also illegal.

Neither do you. The source of the money is not illegal. The method may not be illegal