Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

You know that Dan Rather was caught fabricating news right? You know he ALSO had Bush Derangement Syndrome.

You know that Trump has been caught constantly fabricating news right? You know he ALSO had Obama Derangement Syndrome.

I want to put the context of the “truth isn’t truth” quote.

Rudy G was on Meet the Press discussing the perjury trap of Trump talking to Mueller.

He said something to the effect that Trump might tell a different version of the truth than what someone may have testified to Mueller.

Chuck Todd said “Truth is truth”.

Rudy responded “Truth isn’t truth”.

Todd smiled in astonishment.

The lie is being defended before it is even told.

And today on Twitter, Trump is more whackadoodle than ever before.

Such a criminal. Such a liar. Such a bad person.

Here is the real context. This is what Rudy was talking about. Sorry I have to be so blunt.https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/04/04/dershowitz_warns_trump_you_can_be_indicted_for_perjury_even_if_you_tell_mueller_the_truth.html

L L wrote:

I want to put the context of the “truth isn’t truth” quote.

Rudy G was on Meet the Press discussing the perjury trap of Trump talking to Mueller.

He said something to the effect that Trump might tell a different version of the truth than what someone may have testified to Mueller.

Chuck Todd said “Truth is truth”.

Rudy responded “Truth isn’t truth”.

Todd smiled in astonishment.

The lie is being defended before it is even told.

_its_badddude wrote:

Here is the real context. This is what Rudy was talking about. Sorry I have to be so blunt.

www realclearpolitics com . . .

Sure thing. A conversation between Sean Hannity and Alan Dershowitz on Fox News. As if Fox News was not already trying to convince Trump should not allow himself to tell Mueller the Trump version of the "truth." Remind Trump on his favorite new show. . . . No bias for sure . . . LOL

Truth is still truth.

If, for some reason, a person gets charged with perjury because someone else’s testimony was a lie, that does not change what the truth is.

For example:

Let’s say that Flynn testifies that Trump told him to discuss sanctions with Russia before the inauguration.

And let’s say Trump testifies that he did not tell Flynn to do that.

One of them is telling the truth regardless of which one may get charged with perjury.

Now, are Trump supporters really concerned that Trump will be charged with perjury while being truthful, or are they more concerned that he would lie under oath?

Truth isn’t truth is not the truth.

L L wrote:

Truth is still truth.

If, for some reason, a person gets charged with perjury because someone else’s testimony was a lie, that does not change what the truth is.

For example:

Let’s say that Flynn testifies that Trump told him to discuss sanctions with Russia before the inauguration.

And let’s say Trump testifies that he did not tell Flynn to do that.

One of them is telling the truth regardless of which one may get charged with perjury.

Now, are Trump supporters really concerned that Trump will be charged with perjury while being truthful, or are they more concerned that he would lie under oath?

Truth isn’t truth is not the truth.

Also, Mueller won't just take the word of someone else over Trump just because he wants to. He will have corroboration before he believes one person over another.

The problem Trump has is that he's a criminal and he can't tell the truth.

L L wrote:

Truth is still truth.

That depends on the definition of "is." Just ask the 42nd.

Make America Great Again wrote:

L L wrote:

Truth is still truth.

That depends on the definition of "is." Just ask the 42nd.

House Republicans voted to impeach #42. Just so know,

_its_badddude wrote:

Here is the real context. This is what Rudy was talking about. Sorry I have to be so blunt.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/04/04/dershowitz_warns_trump_you_can_be_indicted_for_perjury_even_if_you_tell_mueller_the_truth.html

So Dershowitz is advising a person who is known for, at best, stretching the truth to fit his own means not to testify because he could get himself into hot water. How very lawyerly of him.

Doesn't change the idiocy of Giuliani's claim this morning although I understand what the role of "America's Mayor" is within the Trump campaign which has never ended.

L L wrote:

I want to put the context of the “truth isn’t truth” quote.

Rudy G was on Meet the Press discussing the perjury trap of Trump talking to Mueller.

He said something to the effect that Trump might tell a different version of the truth than what someone may have testified to Mueller.

Chuck Todd said “Truth is truth”.

Rudy responded “Truth isn’t truth”.

Todd smiled in astonishment.

The lie is being defended before it is even told.

Hate to break up the party on "The truth isn't the truth" but you folks are ALL distorting what was said and what it meant.

Truth in advertising:

1) Trump is the bigliest liar I have ever seen by a country mile

2) Giuliani is horribly incompetent at this point and is debasing himself by the day

BUT

Giuliani saying "The truth isn't the truth", while a horribly unfortunate sound bite, did not at all mean what you folks are claiming it meant. He spoke in the heat of the moment and (as many do when losing their cool) he directly contradicted the words of the interviewer when his real point was to contradict the idea that the interviewer was putting forth.

Giuliani's point was clearly that Trump could be charged and even found guilty of perjury even if he told the truth. One may or may not agree with Giuliani on this point (for the record, it is undeniably a possibility, though I do not think that this is really what the Trumpette team is worried about). But there can be no reasonable question that this was his point. And his point was not "The truth isn't the truth."

So please, try to maintain your intellectual integrity. The Trump team has zero. You folks can do better.

DiscoRiggedJaminLoper wrote:

^ Another DiscoRiggedJaminLoper NOTHING-BURGER!

Outer of JaminLoper wrote:

DiscoRiggedJaminLoper wrote:

^ Another DiscoRiggedJaminLoper NOTHING-BURGER!

So, you've announced that you are brain dead.

Congratulations!

Good morning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine AM?

PIO! wrote:

Giuliani saying "The truth isn't the truth", while a horribly unfortunate sound bite, did not at all mean what you folks are claiming it meant. He spoke in the heat of the moment and (as many do when losing their cool) he directly contradicted the words of the interviewer when his real point was to contradict the idea that the interviewer was putting forth.

Giuliani's point was clearly that Trump could be charged and even found guilty of perjury even if he told the truth. One may or may not agree with Giuliani on this point (for the record, it is undeniably a possibility, though I do not think that this is really what the Trumpette team is worried about). But there can be no reasonable question that this was his point. And his point was not "The truth isn't the truth."

Y'know, if you're going to persist in bringing "reasonableness" and "context" and "logic" into the discussion, you're really going to mess up the vibe around here.

I'm sorry but words mean what they mean.

You can say that he misspoke or that he did not mean to phrase it that way.

But do not say that the words that he spoke mean something else.

And I think they may intentionally use phrase like that or alternate facts to gaslight the public.

They do not want Trump to testify or interview because they know he will lie.

It's not about giving a different version of the truth or fear that someone else's lie will be believed over his truthful statements.

Trump's entire campaign against this investigation is - do not believe what you hear. Do not believe the media. Do not believe any testimony against him. Do not believe that Trump would lie.

When you hear "truth isn't truth" and "alternative facts" you go into a mode where you do not believe anything.

And that is to discredit and undermine any investigation in the minds of the public, or at least his supporters.

This is a political game, not a legal one.

Trump's fate will be decided by politicians voted into office by the public. Create enough doubt in the public, and the elected officials may hesitate to impeach or convict.