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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
You said they would not negotiate which shows how blind you are. Do you think any of these events happen in a vacuum?
I don't recall saying that.
I do know negotiating with terrorists just leads to more terrorism.
I'm aware that nothing going on over there is happening in a vacuum. I'm also not an imbecile so I don't think every going on over there started in 1948 like you pro-Hamas people seem to think.
Not agreeing with unnecessary killing of civilians = supporting Hamas. Yeah you're bright.
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Trollminator wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
I don't recall saying that.
I do know negotiating with terrorists just leads to more terrorism.
I'm aware that nothing going on over there is happening in a vacuum. I'm also not an imbecile so I don't think every going on over there started in 1948 like you pro-Hamas people seem to think.
Not agreeing with unnecessary killing of civilians = supporting Hamas. Yeah you're bright.
"There is a good chance that in the end Hamas will get most of the thousands of prisoners held by Israel in exchange for whatever hostages they haven't killed yet or haven't been blown up, starved or denied proper hospital care by the IDF."
You're disgusting.
There is no moral equivalence between what your Hamas buddies do and what the IDF does in response.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Not agreeing with unnecessary killing of civilians = supporting Hamas. Yeah you're bright.
"There is a good chance that in the end Hamas will get most of the thousands of prisoners held by Israel in exchange for whatever hostages they haven't killed yet or haven't been blown up, starved or denied proper hospital care by the IDF."
You're disgusting.
There is no moral equivalence between what your Hamas buddies do and what the IDF does in response.
You're unable to disprove anything I've said. You just can't handle the truth.
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Trollminator wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
"There is a good chance that in the end Hamas will get most of the thousands of prisoners held by Israel in exchange for whatever hostages they haven't killed yet or haven't been blown up, starved or denied proper hospital care by the IDF."
You're disgusting.
There is no moral equivalence between what your Hamas buddies do and what the IDF does in response.
You're unable to disprove anything I've said. You just can't handle the truth.
The truth is you're naive. You lecture about vacuums but can't understand that you yourself are judging the situation as if it occurred in a vacuum.
The only reason anyone in Gaza is dying is because your buddies started a war.
The neat and tidy solution where no one gets hurt DOES NOT EXIST in the real world.
You think like a child.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
You're unable to disprove anything I've said. You just can't handle the truth.
The truth is you're naive. You lecture about vacuums but can't understand that you yourself are judging the situation as if it occurred in a vacuum.
The only reason anyone in Gaza is dying is because your buddies started a war.
The neat and tidy solution where no one gets hurt DOES NOT EXIST in the real world.
You think like a child.
So you completely ignore the fact that Bibi bolstered Hamas to ensure Palestinian division and allowed Iranian money to flow from Qatar into Gaza, and you are telling me I can't understand things... people died in Israel because Hamas came over and pulled the trigger. People are dying in Gaza because Israelis keep pushing the launch button. 1,400 vs >10k dead. Now they are negotiating anyway and Hamas will end up getting their prisoners and thousands of new recruits. Thousands of new jihadists created, Hamas does not end, and Israel loses even more support. You are a moron if you believe this was the right strategy.
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Trollminator wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
The truth is you're naive. You lecture about vacuums but can't understand that you yourself are judging the situation as if it occurred in a vacuum.
The only reason anyone in Gaza is dying is because your buddies started a war.
The neat and tidy solution where no one gets hurt DOES NOT EXIST in the real world.
You think like a child.
So you completely ignore the fact that Bibi bolstered Hamas to ensure Palestinian division and allowed Iranian money to flow from Qatar into Gaza, and you are telling me I can't understand things... people died in Israel because Hamas came over and pulled the trigger. People are dying in Gaza because Israelis keep pushing the launch button. 1,400 vs >10k dead. Now they are negotiating anyway and Hamas will end up getting their prisoners and thousands of new recruits. Thousands of new jihadists created, Hamas does not end, and Israel loses even more support. You are a moron if you believe this was the right strategy.
You've yet to provide any other strategy.
You claim Israel should use "surgical air strikes". LOL!
This magical other scenario where Israel sings a song and holds a meeting with Hamas and all the troubles go away is never going to happen.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
So you completely ignore the fact that Bibi bolstered Hamas to ensure Palestinian division and allowed Iranian money to flow from Qatar into Gaza, and you are telling me I can't understand things... people died in Israel because Hamas came over and pulled the trigger. People are dying in Gaza because Israelis keep pushing the launch button. 1,400 vs >10k dead. Now they are negotiating anyway and Hamas will end up getting their prisoners and thousands of new recruits. Thousands of new jihadists created, Hamas does not end, and Israel loses even more support. You are a moron if you believe this was the right strategy.
You've yet to provide any other strategy.
You claim Israel should use "surgical air strikes". LOL!
This magical other scenario where Israel sings a song and holds a meeting with Hamas and all the troubles go away is never going to happen.
Stop being lazy and go back and read my posts. Bibi helping Hamas def didn't work before, and trying to bomb Hamas away with an insane civilian kill ratio isn't working either. You supported both of those failed strategies.
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Back to news and here is what i find in the misleading definitions spreads by American medias.
https://i.imgur.com/Iu5NexE.png
Looking at the face of this guy, nothing suggest he is a brain spending his nights pouring his eyes on papers and formulas. This is a pure businessman trying to exploit a new technology that could be extremely dangerous for the society.
Also quoting from his wiki.
Altman has been a vegetarian since childhood. He is gay and dated Loopt co-founder Nick Sivo for nine years;[58] they broke up shortly after the company was acquired in 2012.
Everything made to believe fairy tales.
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Trollminator wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
You've yet to provide any other strategy.
You claim Israel should use "surgical air strikes". LOL!
This magical other scenario where Israel sings a song and holds a meeting with Hamas and all the troubles go away is never going to happen.
Stop being lazy and go back and read my posts. Bibi helping Hamas def didn't work before, and trying to bomb Hamas away with an insane civilian kill ratio isn't working either. You supported both of those failed strategies.
They aren't just bombing they are on the ground this time.
You provide lots of criticism and zero productive suggestions.
Just like a child.
I don't support Bibi helping Hamas. But I'm not a dumb animal like the people in Hamas or their supporters so no amount of money or support you gave me would lead to the murder of civilians or terrorism.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Stop being lazy and go back and read my posts. Bibi helping Hamas def didn't work before, and trying to bomb Hamas away with an insane civilian kill ratio isn't working either. You supported both of those failed strategies.
They aren't just bombing they are on the ground this time.
You provide lots of criticism and zero productive suggestions.
Just like a child.
I don't support Bibi helping Hamas. But I'm not a dumb animal like the people in Hamas or their supporters so no amount of money or support you gave me would lead to the murder of civilians or terrorism.
They are on the ground and Hamas is long gone. What are doing there? They've been controlling everything the media captures and publishes. I'm criticizing because the ball is on their court and they are are fkn it up and creating more chaos. Strong man bs from Bibi is getting too many innocent people killed, making more terrorists and not shutting Hamas down. You are too blind to see any of that and default to calling anyone who doesnt support Israel's actions Hamas supporters. Your last sentence is incoherent.
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Trollminator wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
They aren't just bombing they are on the ground this time.
You provide lots of criticism and zero productive suggestions.
Just like a child.
I don't support Bibi helping Hamas. But I'm not a dumb animal like the people in Hamas or their supporters so no amount of money or support you gave me would lead to the murder of civilians or terrorism.
They are on the ground and Hamas is long gone. What are doing there? They've been controlling everything the media captures and publishes. I'm criticizing because the ball is on their court and they are are fkn it up and creating more chaos. Strong man bs from Bibi is getting too many innocent people killed, making more terrorists and not shutting Hamas down. You are too blind to see any of that and default to calling anyone who doesnt support Israel's actions Hamas supporters. Your last sentence is incoherent.
If Hamas is gone who are they fighting with? Who's tunnels are they clearing?
Again, you're whining and criticizing but offering ZERO alternative.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
They are on the ground and Hamas is long gone. What are doing there? They've been controlling everything the media captures and publishes. I'm criticizing because the ball is on their court and they are are fkn it up and creating more chaos. Strong man bs from Bibi is getting too many innocent people killed, making more terrorists and not shutting Hamas down. You are too blind to see any of that and default to calling anyone who doesnt support Israel's actions Hamas supporters. Your last sentence is incoherent.
If Hamas is gone who are they fighting with? Who's tunnels are they clearing?
Again, you're whining and criticizing but offering ZERO alternative.
They are not there to fight. They are there to occupy and buy time to unfk themselves. They already destroyed much of Gaza and supposedly bombed the tunnels too beforehand. How do they clear half-destroyed tunnels in rubble? They had have very little resistance in getting through Gaza... they are even in control of the hospital that they claimed is Hamas HQ... but no Hamas in sight. They've been telling reporters that holes they find are leading to tunnels, but haven't produced proof. This is like Israel's WMD moment. We know the tunnels exist(ed) and Hamas is horrible, but it's looking more and more that the IDF never had a real plan.
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Trollminator wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
If Hamas is gone who are they fighting with? Who's tunnels are they clearing?
Again, you're whining and criticizing but offering ZERO alternative.
They are not there to fight. They are there to occupy and buy time to unfk themselves. They already destroyed much of Gaza and supposedly bombed the tunnels too beforehand. How do they clear half-destroyed tunnels in rubble? They had have very little resistance in getting through Gaza... they are even in control of the hospital that they claimed is Hamas HQ... but no Hamas in sight. They've been telling reporters that holes they find are leading to tunnels, but haven't produced proof. This is like Israel's WMD moment. We know the tunnels exist(ed) and Hamas is horrible, but it's looking more and more that the IDF never had a real plan.
The families of the IDF soldiers killed in Gaza would be thrilled to know that there's no resistance.
You don't have to clear the tunnels you need to find all of the exits and entrances and seal them.
There's weapons all over the hospital. There's a room they kept hostages in. There's tunnels all over the compound.
Where the hell are you getting your information??
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Trollminator wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
If Hamas is gone who are they fighting with? Who's tunnels are they clearing?
Again, you're whining and criticizing but offering ZERO alternative.
They are not there to fight. They are there to occupy and buy time to unfk themselves. They already destroyed much of Gaza and supposedly bombed the tunnels too beforehand. How do they clear half-destroyed tunnels in rubble? They had have very little resistance in getting through Gaza... they are even in control of the hospital that they claimed is Hamas HQ... but no Hamas in sight. They've been telling reporters that holes they find are leading to tunnels, but haven't produced proof. This is like Israel's WMD moment. We know the tunnels exist(ed) and Hamas is horrible, but it's looking more and more that the IDF never had a real plan.
And you still have yet to fill us in on your genius kumbaya alternative.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
They are not there to fight. They are there to occupy and buy time to unfk themselves. They already destroyed much of Gaza and supposedly bombed the tunnels too beforehand. How do they clear half-destroyed tunnels in rubble? They had have very little resistance in getting through Gaza... they are even in control of the hospital that they claimed is Hamas HQ... but no Hamas in sight. They've been telling reporters that holes they find are leading to tunnels, but haven't produced proof. This is like Israel's WMD moment. We know the tunnels exist(ed) and Hamas is horrible, but it's looking more and more that the IDF never had a real plan.
The families of the IDF soldiers killed in Gaza would be thrilled to know that there's no resistance.
You don't have to clear the tunnels you need to find all of the exits and entrances and seal them.
There's weapons all over the hospital. There's a room they kept hostages in. There's tunnels all over the compound.
Where the hell are you getting your information??
The IDF owns that information. They are not letting the reporters come to their own conclusions using their own methods - this is not a secret. They bring the reporters in and show them a room with chairs, some clothes, weapons and a hole in the ground. The reporters can't verify because they weren't the first on the scene. You are crazy if you think the IDF isn't capable of misleading. I happen to believe them more than the terrorists but as you can see people don't just assume they are honest, and for a good reason. Where are you getting your info from? Have you asked yourself why they impose restrictions on reporting?
“Journalists embedded with the IDF in Gaza operate under the observation of Israeli commanders in the field, and are not permitted to move unaccompanied within the strip,” said Becky Anderson, introducing Diamond’s report. “As a condition to enter Gaza under IDF escort, outlets have to submit all materials and footage to the Israeli military for review prior to publication.”
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
They are not there to fight. They are there to occupy and buy time to unfk themselves. They already destroyed much of Gaza and supposedly bombed the tunnels too beforehand. How do they clear half-destroyed tunnels in rubble? They had have very little resistance in getting through Gaza... they are even in control of the hospital that they claimed is Hamas HQ... but no Hamas in sight. They've been telling reporters that holes they find are leading to tunnels, but haven't produced proof. This is like Israel's WMD moment. We know the tunnels exist(ed) and Hamas is horrible, but it's looking more and more that the IDF never had a real plan.
And you still have yet to fill us in on your genius kumbaya alternative.
Stop being lazy and go back and read
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Trollminator wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
And you still have yet to fill us in on your genius kumbaya alternative.
Stop being lazy and go back and read
"Surgical airstrikes"
LOL!
You have provided ZERO feasible alternatives.
And if the IDF let the media wander around in Gaza alone they would be killed and then people like you would blame the IDF for their deaths.
The CNN reporters imbedded with Hamas on 10/7 happily participated in the attacks.
Surely these high quality people would never be as dishonest as the Jews you hate so much.
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This guy describes you pretty well.
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