Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Yeah sure, THAT is an obvious lie! Your whole life is consumed by Trump and both sides know it.

He belittled Pence.

Oh, you mean Pence is the Good Lord. Now I get it.

Good thing the Supreme has never gotten anything wrong and reversed itself. Roll eyes

You’re wrong on this. You need to rethink it and be on the right side of history.

Oh yeah. And great straw man.

PIO! wrote:

PIO! wrote:

Yes, there DO have to be limits on free speech. And Flagpole clearly and concisely enumerated them.

Next.

Hi Flagpole!

NOPE!

WEJO, DO AN IP CHECK, AND IF I LIE, BAN ME FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I did not vote for Trump...or Hillary for that matter. I voted for Johnson. That being said I am no fan of Trump, he’s a terrible person and really not suited for the office of POTUS.

But, unfortunately flaggy, I only partially agree with you. Mueller is indeed coming. The clown, however, will not be done. Partially because there is no way the Democrats will win back both the House and the Senate. They have almost no chance at winning the Senate back and I would put their odds at wining the House back at around 30%. Their major set back in the Ohio special election today is very telling. Despite all the insane things Trump has said and done they still couldn’t beat somebody that really cozied up to Trump—that’s bad.

Additionally, Trump is still incredibly popular with GOP voters. We are talking about job approval numbers in the upper 80s to low 90s! Again, shocking given Trump’s blatant incompetence.

What does this all mean? It means there is almost no way Trump will be impeached. The WH will spin, spin, spin the Mueller findings in their chaotic, bizarre way and it will work with most GOP voters. Compound that with the Dems only controlling—at best—the House and there winds up being no road to impeachment with a conviction in the Senate. Sorry but this is simply reality.

I am afraid Trump will be around until at least 2020. That will be the real battle, I think 2018 is done and not going to play out in the Democrats favor.

I, for one, will not vote for Trump in 2020 but I have yet to see a Democratic candidate that I would vote for. So, unless the Dems get their sh!t together soon—we may be looking at 8 years of Trump which will be very bad for the US long term.

God help us all.

Guy who lives in reality...a real one wrote:

I did not vote for Trump...

Mueller is indeed coming.

The clown, however, will not be done.

Partially because there is no way the Democrats will win back both the House and the Senate.

What does this all mean? It means there is almost no way Trump will be impeached.

I am afraid Trump will be around until at least 2020. That will be the real battle, I think 2018 is done and not going to play out in the Democrats favor.

I have yet to see a Democratic candidate that I would vote for.

^ Smells like--reeks of--Hardloper; a rabid Trumper,

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

You see most of the violence coming from the left. There is no argument, this is a fact, liberals. You have Antifa rioting, the Scalise shooter, people attacked for wearing M.A.G.A. hats and Maxine Waters calling for harassment of conservatives. More examples of the intolerant left acting badly and worse:

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blah, blah, blah

No, YOU see most of the violence coming from the left because you are blinded by right wing propaganda. Any rational, clearheaded, non dimwit would see it coming from both sides, but TONS of it coming from the right too.

Want me to list examples??? Try me.

Once again, you prove yourself, like DG, to be living in a completely made-up, alt-right universe, which resembles reality in no way, shape, or form.

Are you seriously this dumb, deluded or dishonest??

Control your wacko leftists, please Here is another example of liberals gone wild:

California Prosecutors drop major charges against a murderous Antifa bike lock terrorist & college professor, Eric Clanton who assaulted Trump supporters with a deadly weapon. Given probation. No jail time. Hopefully the civil case bankrupts this piece of sh&t.

If I went and smashed someone’s head with a bike lock I would lose my house, job, and my freedom for life. This Antifa thug got the equivalent of a slap on a wrist.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

The crimes he will be found guilty of are not small crimes. Here they are in order of severity from most severe to least:

All of that stuff you posted and more would be thrown at a poor, powerless defendant. This however, is the President of a Republic and that office of President has many privileges that the rest of us do not, including the power to pardon as Nixon was by Ford.

Given Trump has caved on a number of stupid things he's done, he could resign without any action from Congress, then Pence pardons him. The clown will not be done in that scenario. In fact, the clown walks away and is replaced by perhaps a more effective Theocrat.

You had best reconsider your very limited opinions.

1) I have said often that Trump could be pardoned and likely will be. When you are pardoned, you admit guilt. Him having to admit guilt makes him done. He very well might escape jail, but only due to pardon and/or plea deal, something I have said many times.

2) Umm...if Trump has to resign, even if he is pardoned, he is done. Sorry, but having to resign from the Presidency makes one "done". Loss of power, loss of legitimacy, proof that he is a serial liar and traitor, a forever stain on US politics...yeah, that makes him done. He will be a pariah. He will still have some state (New York at a minimum) charges to deal with that will cost him money and perhaps loss of his business, or a major portion of it. People will avoid his hotels like that plague once he is no longer President and he has to leave not on his own terms.

3) For all of Pence's faults and crazy religious attitudes, he is no where near as dangerous as Trump. Pence has the charisma of bird poop. He couldn't get people to follow him out of a stinky bathroom. He would have no shot at furthering any Theocracy here.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Flagpole wrote:

Perhaps your are protecting yourself from potential disappointment by thinking this will not go anywhere.

The only person on the board who's going to be disappointed is you. Mueller may even address every item you mentioned in his report but this will turn into strictly a political issue and not one of criminality for the POTUS. Once it is a political issue, it will die a slow death but you'll have plenty of ammunition to keep chanting the same thing over and over until 2024.

1) Just wait. This would be over by now considering the speed with which Mueller has been working if Trump were innocent of those things. He is clearly guilty.

2) I know a ton about this subject. Guaranteed I read more about it and listen to more about it from all kinds of sources than you do.

3) I am also not biased. I have shown that time and time again. Trump is just a criminal. He was a criminal when he was a Democrat, and he continues to be one now that he is a Republican (he's not even really one).

4) I didn't claim anything would be in February.

5) November 8, 2020 is actually MORE that 2 years away...2 years and 3 months away, and it isn't an important date anyway. Methinks you were trying for election day November 2020, and that is November 3, 2020, but you can try to go vote on the 8th if you want. Who is the one who doesn't know anything?

6) I'm no pretender. Weird accusation, but that makes no sense at all.

Read this and learn and know...

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

The Manafort Trial is NOT going in Mueller's favor thus far. His star witness, Rick Gates, perjured himself on cross-examination.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/muellers-star-witness-rick-gates-falls-apart-during-cross-examination-by-manafort-lawyers-perjures-himself/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/08/manafort-trial-judge-ts-ellis-taunts-and-torments-mueller-team-tears-in-your-eyes.html

Mueller never

Clownpole forever

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

The Manafort Trial is NOT going in Mueller's favor thus far. His star witness, Rick Gates, perjured himself on cross-examination.

Andrew Napolitano talked about the judge on Fox News today. Nopolitano said,

"He’s making too much of the case about him and he’s showing an extraordinary bias against the government. If you feel that negatively about the government, you shouldn’t be on the case, or you have to keep those feelings to yourself not manifest them.

When even Fox thinks the judge is biased, it must be really bad.

All that aside, I'm pretty sure Mueller will still win the case. You never know what a jury will do, but the facts and the law are on the side of the prosecution.

Interesting.

1) Mueller is coming...for sure. You are right about that.

2) You are under the assumption that when Mueller releases this report about Trump and his crimes that many Republicans will not vote to convict. I disagree. The evidence will be damning and the crimes serious. Any Senator who looks at charges that include Obstruction of Justice and Conspiracy to Defraud the United States of America and decides that's not worthy of removing from office needs to be removed themselves. Seriously, why have laws at all if we allow them to be broken with no consequence? I do not believe that will happen.

3) Democrats will take the House for sure in November. For sure.

4) Democrats will probably NOT take the Senate, but again, they don't need to in order to still have enough votes to remove a criminal president. They need 67 anyway, so just taking the Senate wouldn't do it.

5) The "major setback in Ohio" is not even close to that. This is a very conservative district that Trump won by 11 points, and this particular race is still so close it hasn't been called yet. Balderson (the Republican) will likely win the seat, but this is bad news for other Congressional districts nationwide that Trump won by smaller margins.

6) Fewer and fewer people identify as "Republican" voters, and most of those are Trump supporters. The percentage of people who identify as Republican has dropped since Trump has been in office. His high percentage of approval from those remaining isn't enough.

7) Trump will likely have to resign. Mueller can force that by telling Trump he will indict him after he is out of office and then give him a plea deal that takes that away if he resigns. Probably won't play out like that though. I believe the crimes and the evidence will be so damning that only the most die hard Trumpers in the Senate will continue to support him. The votes will be there. He will be convicted and removed or he will resign.

8) If Trump somehow made it to the end of this first term, he would be a fool to take on another term. He is SO criminal, SO undisciplined, that he will likely do something else in another 4 year period of time that would put him on the hot seat again. He is a bad bad guy with no respect for the rule of law at all. He's not even 2 years in yet, and Mueller has only been on the case for just over a year at this point. No WAY he could last a total of 8 years as President.

You don't do much to help by voting for people like Johnson. What we have now is a bear in the house. He's attacking you, and you need to break your grandmother's antique lamp over its head to get it to leave. Who is better than Trump? Anyone. Anyone. Anyone. Anyone who could win that is, and today in 2018 and more importantly 2020, that is a Democrat who runs against him...not a third-party candidate.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

The Fokus wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Perhaps your are protecting yourself from potential disappointment by thinking this will not go anywhere.

The only person on the board who's going to be disappointed is you. Mueller may even address every item you mentioned in his report but this will turn into strictly a political issue and not one of criminality for the POTUS. Once it is a political issue, it will die a slow death but you'll have plenty of ammunition to keep chanting the same thing over and over until 2024.

When you are mistaken about how I will react, it lets me know you are very likely mistaken about the rest of what you say.

I have said this before...if Mueller's investigation determines that Trump is innocent, I will declare that Trump is innocent. If it goes through the House and Senate and it is determined that Trump didn't do enough to be removed from office, I will accept that. I am a Rule of Law person and will accept whatever ruling comes down. I will NOT keep chanting the same thing over and over until 2024...that is UNLESS Trump has done some new illegal things that he is once again being investigated for and I believe he will be taken down by THOSE things.

The first provable thing that I will be right about is that Manafort is going to prison...well, that will be the sentence. Trump may pardon him, but he's guilty and he will be sentenced (though I suppose Trump could pardon him before the sentencing). Again, when you accept a pardon, you admit guilt.

The dominoes will continue to fall, and Trump will be one of them.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Fat hurts wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

The Manafort Trial is NOT going in Mueller's favor thus far. His star witness, Rick Gates, perjured himself on cross-examination.

Andrew Napolitano talked about the judge on Fox News today. Nopolitano said,

"He’s making too much of the case about him and he’s showing an extraordinary bias against the government. If you feel that negatively about the government, you shouldn’t be on the case, or you have to keep those feelings to yourself not manifest them.

When even Fox thinks the judge is biased, it must be really bad.

All that aside, I'm pretty sure Mueller will still win the case. You never know what a jury will do, but the facts and the law are on the side of the prosecution.

Yep...facts and the law are on the side of the prosecution. Manafort loses this case.

"Bike lock terrorist" is an oxymoron.

You might actually be right, because if the free speech banning fascists get their way then history will be rewritten to show that their side of history was "right" and that free speech = oppression.

Fat hurts wrote:

PIO! wrote:

Religious nut job? You're in your 50's or 60's I'd guess, so a lot closer to death than life.

You may live to a 100, but you'll regret putting those words down in writing and it's gonna be awful hot where you're going. Laugh as most do, but the Good Lord asks for very little and you just belittled him to raise your own personal ego. I pity you.

He belittled Pence.

Oh, you mean Pence is the Good Lord. Now I get it.

Typical Liberal Fact Twister.

He's calling religious people nut jobs!!!!! Are you that stupid that you can't admit that???? Ignorant piece of lying crap you are. Good luck in hell old man!