Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Flagpole wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Well I'm getting all misty eyed here. My old Liberal nemesis rises to the occasion and makes a stand for free speech. Well done sir!

Credit must be given where credit is due and so I tip my hat to Flagpole for taking an unpopular stand on this. Of course it would be nice if you would join the battle but I'll take what I can get.

Free speech and the First Amendment is long a liberal love. I'm a former journalist and so of course am for free speech. Donald Trump is very much an enemy of free speech. The press is a check on people in power. Just like the ACLU often defends vile people, you have to be for free speech for everyone if you have any integrity.

Has Trump limited anyone’s free speech.?

DiscoGary wrote:

From where I sit... wrote:

... hate speech against Nazis is an oxymoron. There is no legitimate defence for Nazism. The movement was expressly about hatred of non-Aryan, or “unusual” sorts, and comprised a program to exterminate millions of humans. Nazis get no sympathy from thinking humans when they are victimized by “hate speech,” because the term has no logical application for Nazis.

DG will say this is a slippery slope, where do you draw the line? It’s not slippery at all... the line is clear and sharp and divides Nazis from all the rest of imperfect humanity.

No, it is not a slippery slope. It is a sheer cliff and Liberals have jumped straight off it.

Liberals can see no line at all between real Nazis and Trump and his supporters.

I’m sorry, but there has to be limits on free speech. Hate speech has to be one of them. We live in different times than 250 years ago.

Trump downer wrote:

Has Trump limited anyone’s free speech.?

His fans are working to make that case for Trump.

43% of Republicans believe “the president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior.”

36% of Republicans surveyed said that the president should not have the power to silence the press.

26% of Republicans said that Trump should shutter mainstream outlets like CNN and The Washington Post.

Democrats hate Christians

Trumpian trial balloon wrote:

Trump downer wrote:

Has Trump limited anyone’s free speech.?

His fans are working to make that case for Trump.

43% of Republicans believe “the president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior.”

36% of Republicans surveyed said that the president should not have the power to silence the press.

26% of Republicans said that Trump should shutter mainstream outlets like CNN and The Washington Post.

So the answer is no, Trump hasn't limited anyone’s free speech.

The answer is no. wrote:

Trumpian trial balloon wrote:

His fans are working to make that case for Trump.

43% of Republicans believe “the president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior.”

36% of Republicans surveyed said that the president should not have the power to silence the press.

26% of Republicans said that Trump should shutter mainstream outlets like CNN and The Washington Post.

So the answer is no, Trump hasn't limited anyone’s free speech.

Wrong. The answer is YES. He has banned reports from public press events. He has banned a huge number of Democrats from his Twitter news source.

Trump downer wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Free speech and the First Amendment is long a liberal love. I'm a former journalist and so of course am for free speech. Donald Trump is very much an enemy of free speech. The press is a check on people in power. Just like the ACLU often defends vile people, you have to be for free speech for everyone if you have any integrity.

Has Trump limited anyone’s free speech.?

DeBlasio is certainly trying. This is seriously getting out of hand. The few Democrats who aren’t yet completely insane should stand against this kind of talk.

The answer is YES wrote:

Wrong. The answer is YES. He has banned reports from public press events. He has banned a huge number of Democrats from his Twitter news source.

And of course you can provide reputable links.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Trump downer wrote:

Has Trump limited anyone’s free speech.?

DeBlasio is certainly trying. This is seriously getting out of hand. The few Democrats who aren’t yet completely insane should stand against this kind of talk.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/400744-de-blasio-slams-murdoch-fox-news-we-would-be-a-more-unified-country-without?__twitter_impression=true

Nothing in that article indicates that DeBlasio is trying to limit free speech.

Twitter blocking:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/23/trump-block-twitter-users-ruling-604462

Banning reporters and news outlets:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/venting-about-press-trump-has-repeatedly-sought-to-ban-reporters-over-questions/2018/07/27/0e73a068-91a9-11e8-8322-b5482bf5e0f5_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.44578e6ad259

Not to mention slandering the press and making his base believe the press is an enemy of the state to the point where liberal reporters are being threatened and harassed.

Flagpole wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Well I'm getting all misty eyed here. My old Liberal nemesis rises to the occasion and makes a stand for free speech. Well done sir!

Credit must be given where credit is due and so I tip my hat to Flagpole for taking an unpopular stand on this. Of course it would be nice if you would join the battle but I'll take what I can get.

Free speech and the First Amendment is long a liberal love. I'm a former journalist and so of course am for free speech. Donald Trump is very much an enemy of free speech. The press is a check on people in power. Just like the ACLU often defends vile people, you have to be for free speech for everyone if you have any integrity.

There is no argument on this topic. I agree 100% with Flagpole. Get on board liberals, you must defend free speech & the First Amendment for EVERYONE not just for those you agree with.

Nothing reputable there, but plenty of bias, check out who the Judge is:

"On February 12, 1999, Buchwald was nominated by President Bill Clinton to a seat on the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York"

Check out who her son is:

"David Buchwald is a Democratic member of the New York State Assembly"

And check out which newspaper it is that's reporting the ban the reporters BS.

I don't see anything wrong with DeBlasio speaking out against publications that brainwash citizens and don't do honest reporting. It's literally propaganda and networks like Fox lash out when someone speaks out against them. (see: Laura Ingraham's comments on LeBron, Ingraham attacking Parkland survivors)

A few pages back a Fox News host was concerned that if Trump were to talk to Mueller he would charged because he "would not be able to lie under oath". How could they support someone like this? They put party over country and will die for Trump.

https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/fox-news-whistleblower-fox-anchors-know-it-s-trump-propaganda-1262171715587

Do you honestly think it's okay for the President of the United States to be blocking citizens and critics on Twitter? How can you support that? If the man doesn't have enough backbone to deal with criticism from random citizens he is not fit for office.

swerve wrote:

Do you honestly think it's okay for the President of the United States to be blocking citizens and critics on Twitter? How can you support that? If the man doesn't have enough backbone to deal with criticism from random citizens he is not fit for office.

His only acceptable unbiased source is one from a Tump loyalist, like he is, who grovels at trump's tiny feet. In other words. in his Trumpian rat maze Trump is the most unbiased, free speech person in the history of the universe.

No bias amongst the Buchwald's:

"At the Grafflin School on New York Primary Day: David Buchwald with Hillary Clinton."

https://www.theinsidepress.com/assemblyman-buchwald-on-albany-the-minimum-wage-and-raising-a-family-in-westchester/

"Naturally, this judge is a Bill Clinton appointed Judge."

https://twitter.com/fuctupmind/status/999408007325868032

swerve wrote:

Do you honestly think it's okay for the President of the United States to be blocking citizens and critics on Twitter?

Yes, it's his Twitter, he can do what he wants, just as other Twitter users do, newspapers do, forums do, TV channels do, radio stations do, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,

Anonymous trolls saying it don't count. wrote:

"Naturally, this judge is a Bill Clinton appointed Judge."

https://twitter.com/fuctupmind/status/999408007325868032

Read the other posts under that, I think they back up the "he can do what he wants" bit.

XY wrote:

Obummer wrote:

Trump is the king of this, but Obama didn't have a great track record with critical press either.

Yes Obama did.

I just did some research on Obama. I stand corrected. He was pretty much the same as Trump on this subject.