Kincaid 12:58, Lomong 13:00, Centro 13:00 at Nike Track in Beaverton!

Ironically enough wrote:

600mRunner wrote:

That's not the point. Point is they won't be able to replicate the times elsewhere.

Eh, that often happens when you run 13:00.

Your name is "ironically enough" but there's no irony here.

600mRunner wrote:

Not saying the track is short, but I am not convinced either that it is regulation size. Is there some procedure for confirming the validity of these extraordinary times?

If they used the rail from Heyward Field, why the need for a different start line? Rail goes on top of the white line inside of lane one so there must be a slight irregularity of the track to need a different start line?

the_purple_crayon wrote:

it wasn't the track that was short, it was the timing that was messed up.

if you watch the video, the clock they use is running slow. ;)

It seemed to match everyone's cell phones just fine

Another giver of +1 wrote:

600mRunner wrote:

Not saying the track is short, but I am not convinced either that it is regulation size. Is there some procedure for confirming the validity of these extraordinary times?

If they used the rail from Heyward Field, why the need for a different start line? Rail goes on top of the white line inside of lane one so there must be a slight irregularity of the track to need a different start line?

The plot thickens. ?️‍♂️

This could get bigger than a cheaters thread.

Ghost, I completely agree with you, surprising isn't it.

dtyjtyjk wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

Didn't Ventolin say tracks that small were Micky Mouse?

Least credible fast race ever.

I bet next year about a month out from the Olympics Salazar will do a similar stunt and have Kejelcha break the world record.

I'm saying it now Jakob Ingebrigtsen is about 15sec quicker over 5,000m than these 3.

Jakob worth 12:43 now (you said "is")?

lol keep dreaming, fan boy.

No, just on that track in those conditions.

Been accepted by IAAF

https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/united-states/william-kincaid-297120

Absolutely agree with you

Your affirmation just further decreased the validity of his post ten fold.

Another giver of +1 wrote:

If they used the rail from Heyward Field, why the need for a different start line? Rail goes on top of the white line inside of lane one so there must be a slight irregularity of the track to need a different start line?

1. You misspelled Hayward Field

2. Track measurement is a very basic component of our sport. The same 400m track measures differently if I has a rail (measures 30cm from inside line) vs it whether there is no rail (20cm from inside line).

The logic in the two measurements is that you run closer to the inside line if there is no rail.

It appears that the guys in Portland did everything technically by the book when it came to the accuracy of the track.

1. They had the track measured by a surveyor prior to the event to verify the distance and confirm that the track was originally designed and constructed not to have a curb.

2. They borrowed the curb from Hayward field. A curb is required by the IAAF for all qualifying performances as well as world records. Note: a curb is not required on the straight sections of the track.

3. Curbs are built for a track's specific radius. It is unlikely that this curb fit this track exactly. But, you ca tinker with the sections, remove sections, or cut sections to make it fit. The curb must fit over the left hand white line that designates the edge of the track.

4. As previously mentioned, tracks designed not to have a curb have a measured running line 20 cm from the left hand line (outer edge). Tracks with a curb have a measured running line 30 cm from the curb. Placing a curb on a non curb track increases the length of the running line by approximately 0.628 meters per lap. This means that the starting lines for any oval event in lane one would need to be shifted forwarded.

5. IAAF rule 260.12(b) allows an outdoor track to be 400-402.3 in length. This is a hold over from years past when there were still many 440 yard tracks.

6. This protocol has been used many times coast to coast for events trying to get athletes achieve the IAAF standard and is approved by the IAAF. Some events have used white bricks around the curve to achieve the same conditions of a curb.

They had rails installed and the track was measured specifically for 5k by the USATF. What part of that don't you understand?

REAL. wrote:

Been accepted by IAAF

https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/united-states/william-kincaid-297120

Further proof Nike owns the IAAF

Proof please?

For everyone doing backflips over Fisher.