It seems you are the one with alzheimer's, assuming you remembered these points in the first place. I have consistenly asked, in various forms, why the Russians did not succeed in distance running with their men. The same question can be posed for the Chinese and Indian men.
If you bothered to inform yourself of the content of annual WADA reports, and various other official studies and unofficial "expert" analysis, you would see that many nations dope, and have done so for decades, but not all of them perform.
So you accept that turtle juice works on Chinese women, but not men?
Can you please share your knowledge about turtle juice?
St Bernards are the hobby- jogger equivalent. That is why greyhounds are faster. Greyhounds compete against greyhounds - like fast runners compete against their peers, where doping will make a difference. But as a hobby jogger you probably have never experienced that.
Some runners from specific regions are faster than others from other regions.
5 millions Kelenjin produce way more top Marathon runners than 4 billions of USA, China, India and Europe combined.
For you, doping is the only explanation for this astonishing fact.
More Kalenjins dope? Or they dope better?
Doping doesn't explain this dominance.
Or how people of West African descent dominate the sprints. It's not because they're taking drugs and the others aren't.
Armstronglivs talks like evolution doesn't exist. That a St. Bernard is just as likely to have a litter of greyhounds as anything else.
However the Kenyans you trained and raced against were also likely to be doped. You could have made the same point about E Germans at one time, or Chinese women athletes.
False. I can tell you have never run or raced at a high level, let alone with Kenyans. East German and Chinese aren’t even a discussion.
They were dominant in certain periods and some still even hold world records. Your experience is too narrow. It is also likely from what we see in Kenya that the runners beating you were doped as well as talented.
St Bernards are the hobby- jogger equivalent. That is why greyhounds are faster. Greyhounds compete against greyhounds - like fast runners compete against their peers, where doping will make a difference. But as a hobby jogger you probably have never experienced that.
Some runners from specific regions are faster than others from other regions.
5 millions Kelenjin produce way more top Marathon runners than 4 billions of USA, China, India and Europe combined.
For you, doping is the only explanation for this astonishing fact.
More Kalenjins dope? Or they dope better?
Doping doesn't explain this dominance.
It doesn't matter how naturally talented Kenyans may be, the fact is they dope like it is a disease - it is appallingly widespread. That is why the issue of a national ban has been considered. It also means that doping is an inextricable factor in their success. They are better than they otherwise would be from their doping - as anyone would be.
Some runners from specific regions are faster than others from other regions.
5 millions Kelenjin produce way more top Marathon runners than 4 billions of USA, China, India and Europe combined.
For you, doping is the only explanation for this astonishing fact.
More Kalenjins dope? Or they dope better?
Doping doesn't explain this dominance.
Or how people of West African descent dominate the sprints. It's not because they're taking drugs and the others aren't.
Armstronglivs talks like evolution doesn't exist. That a St. Bernard is just as likely to have a litter of greyhounds as anything else.
You have become confused by your own dumb analogies. In top level sports, like competes with like - they share many of the same characteristics that suit their sport. But doping will make some better than others.
Some runners from specific regions are faster than others from other regions.
5 millions Kelenjin produce way more top Marathon runners than 4 billions of USA, China, India and Europe combined.
For you, doping is the only explanation for this astonishing fact.
More Kalenjins dope? Or they dope better?
Doping doesn't explain this dominance.
It doesn't matter how naturally talented Kenyans may be, the fact is they dope like it is a disease - it is appallingly widespread. That is why the issue of a national ban has been considered. It also means that doping is an inextricable factor in their success. They are better than they otherwise would be from their doping - as anyone would be.
Anybody knows that "many" Kenyans dope.
How many? We don't know.
But for sure the no. of Kenyan dopers is just a small fraction of the no. of non-East African dopers. Yet, Kenyans (around 5 million, from a small part of the country) outperform non East Africans (billions of people) in the Marathon by a huge margin. How do you explain this?
It doesn't matter how naturally talented Kenyans may be, the fact is they dope like it is a disease - it is appallingly widespread. That is why the issue of a national ban has been considered. It also means that doping is an inextricable factor in their success. They are better than they otherwise would be from their doping - as anyone would be.
Anybody knows that "many" Kenyans dope.
How many? We don't know.
But for sure the no. of Kenyan dopers is just a small fraction of the no. of non-East African dopers. Yet, Kenyans (around 5 million, from a small part of the country) outperform non East Africans (billions of people) in the Marathon by a huge margin. How do you explain this?
Their outperforming others is also because they dope more than others. The hugely disproportionate number of busts shows that.
But for sure the no. of Kenyan dopers is just a small fraction of the no. of non-East African dopers. Yet, Kenyans (around 5 million, from a small part of the country) outperform non East Africans (billions of people) in the Marathon by a huge margin. How do you explain this?
Their outperforming others is also because they dope more than others. The hugely disproportionate number of busts shows that.
What do you mean by "they dope more than others"? The individual doper dopes more (better?) than the individual doper from other countries?
For sure the non East African countries have much more doping distance runners than the Kalenjins. Yet this tribe outperforms the rest by big margins in the Marathon. "They dope more" can't explain this. I'm waiting for better explanations.
You always write exactly the same, you never want to really answer points which question your believe.
Also always calling all others as stupid is not helpful
Their outperforming others is also because they dope more than others. The hugely disproportionate number of busts shows that.
this is false. Others being the rest of the world, kenyan busts represent a minority even though it was the n1 country in the world regarding doping cases (which apparently isn't even the case, others said that India, China, Russia had more cases, despite failing all together to produce a single world class distance runnner).
Wake up, you can't be the best of the world by only doping or only talent or only great training. Not even two of those factors. You have to have extraordinary talent + great training + doping in such a competitive era.
Doping is wispread among those who have the best talent in their discipline, because that's what it takes to reach the highest level. It's as simple as that. US and Jamaicans sprinters, east Africans distance runners, Europeans throwers etc. They all dope.
That actually proves their superiority as those who don't have a chance to reach the highest level by doping are far less inclined to cross the line. It is talent that leads to doping (when athletes face the choice of staying a subelite or random elite ahtlete for their whole career or competing for medals and big money), not the opposit. PEDs don't turn lambda people into superheroes...
False. I can tell you have never run or raced at a high level, let alone with Kenyans. East German and Chinese aren’t even a discussion.
They were dominant in certain periods and some still even hold world records. Your experience is too narrow. It is also likely from what we see in Kenya that the runners beating you were doped as well as talented.
No my experience is not too narrow. Your experience is non-existent.
Just like how everyone is school that seemed smarter than you was cheating, right? Some people are gifted. Either you will accept it or accept that you're not gifted (and I'm not actually writing to you).
There is a difference between gifted, well trained, and mentally tough. Yes, genes play a role in everyone's potential to excel in many things, but it is not a lot of direct evidence over things like upbringing, youth activity volume, life-long diet, career training volume, mental toughness, etc. Genetics, with all of the many possible combinations that could lead to building a very successful runner, is likely not the main driver. If it was, there would be many more instances of elite runners emerging out of nowhere in their early 30's, but this is not the case. The time and progression of a runner/athlete from youth to adulthood is likely the most critical aspect to running or any athletic success. Genetic "talent" is mostly BS that ignoring this and all other developmental experiences that can define a person.
Mostly, the "talent" argument is just an excuse created by people not willing to work as hard or be as tough as the other athlete. Lazy people and cowards believe in the concept of talent more than they should.
Their outperforming others is also because they dope more than others. The hugely disproportionate number of busts shows that.
this is false. Others being the rest of the world, kenyan busts represent a minority even though it was the n1 country in the world regarding doping cases (which apparently isn't even the case, others said that India, China, Russia had more cases, despite failing all together to produce a single world class distance runnner).
Wake up, you can't be the best of the world by only doping or only talent or only great training. Not even two of those factors. You have to have extraordinary talent + great training + doping in such a competitive era.
Doping is wispread among those who have the best talent in their discipline, because that's what it takes to reach the highest level. It's as simple as that. US and Jamaicans sprinters, east Africans distance runners, Europeans throwers etc. They all dope.
That actually proves their superiority as those who don't have a chance to reach the highest level by doping are far less inclined to cross the line. It is talent that leads to doping (when athletes face the choice of staying a subelite or random elite ahtlete for their whole career or competing for medals and big money), not the opposit. PEDs don't turn lambda people into superheroes...
End of the thread
Wrong. The Kenyans are merely today's version of the E Germans. Talented athletes who are doping. En masse. That's why they are dominating.
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