We’ve changed the thread title many times. At one point, it was called: Tokyo 2025 World Athletics Championships Day 8 Live Discussion Thread - US men bomb out of 4 x 400, Jamaica men bomb out of 4 x 100
Now no question USA performance has not been up to what some had hoped for in distance events especially. But, to put things in perspective with 1 day remaining USA has 250 points using WA placing table of awarding points to places 1-8. Italy, Spain, Great Britain, Netherlands, Germany and France have 271 points combined. USA has a population of approx. 340 million. The 6 Euro nations above have a combined population of approx 346 million. So, all in all not so bad.
Can some coach out there get a hold of Anna Hall and TEACH HER HOW TO LONG JUMP??? Her run-up SUCKS, and her in air coordination and landing are worse! For someone so talented, it is HORRIBLE to the Nth degree!
I was a crappy d3 long jumper and I have been saying this for years. I think I could fix her run up and add half a meter in one week of training. She's just such an absurdly good athlete and should be jumping farther. Just goes to show how good she really is--still crushed the competition regardless.
I don't know if this is just a dumb theory, a red hot take, or something else.
Bi carb isn't working as well anymore (more depth, but guys at top aren't as fast as last year) because they're using it for ALL of their training, and losing some adaptations that come from training through the lactate or whatever the scientific thing is.
So last year they had training adaptations and bi-carb adaptations combined, because they weren't very far removed from "non bi-carb training." But now it's just the bi-carb working. Their body hasn't had to fight through something quite as intense anymore.
OR, maybe guys just aren't as motivated in a non olympic year.
Last year, 5 guys under 1:42, 12 under 1:43. Average of the guys under 1:42 : 1:41.45
This year, 3 guys under 1:42, 17 under 1:43. Average of the guys under 1:42: 1:41.76
Another interesting tidbit, I believe JG said on one of the pods that Brazier does not use bi-carb. correct me if im wrong.
Now no question USA performance has not been up to what some had hoped for in distance events especially. But, to put things in perspective with 1 day remaining USA has 250 points using WA placing table of awarding points to places 1-8. Italy, Spain, Great Britain, Netherlands, Germany and France have 271 points combined. USA has a population of approx. 340 million. The 6 Euro nations above have a combined population of approx 346 million. So, all in all not so bad.
Max took at least a couple of knocks. He was about to try to go past Wanyonyi but had to check himself and come out wide then got a knock, then Attoui knocked him too. Great run from him after one season of full training after 7 years, can't argue with a PB.
I honestly think he and Laros could own the 800m and 1500m from next year until LA and beyond.
The ways Laros run in the final 1500m, I can tell you he could prepare his farewell to any 800m dream in the future. Burgin to has deficiency in the body shape.
There are at least three U20 Ethiopian runners that are better than Laros and didn't get the chance of better conditions.
I don't know if this is just a dumb theory, a red hot take, or something else.
Bi carb isn't working as well anymore (more depth, but guys at top aren't as fast as last year) because they're using it for ALL of their training, and losing some adaptations that come from training through the lactate or whatever the scientific thing is.
So last year they had training adaptations and bi-carb adaptations combined, because they weren't very far removed from "non bi-carb training." But now it's just the bi-carb working. Their body hasn't had to fight through something quite as intense anymore.
OR, maybe guys just aren't as motivated in a non olympic year.
Last year, 5 guys under 1:42, 12 under 1:43. Average of the guys under 1:42 : 1:41.45
This year, 3 guys under 1:42, 17 under 1:43. Average of the guys under 1:42: 1:41.76
Another interesting tidbit, I believe JG said on one of the pods that Brazier does not use bi-carb. correct me if im wrong.
Wightman said he wasn't using it either as he didn't feel right on it.