You clearly haven't followed the American elections then. No better example. Dumbest on the planet. And so many of them. Group conformity can show the opposite of intelligence. As here.
You sound like a flat-earther.
You show what you are. I've just described the effect.
As for Farah, he ran in a different era but his championship record is something Ingebrigtsen could only dream of and will never achieve in the championship distances of the 5k and 10k.
How can you know that? Farah, with a PR of 12.53 achieved three 5000m wc golds and two 5000m olympic golds. That means that J.I needs to get one more WC gold and one more olympic gold. While it is not certain that J.I will ever win another 5000m medal, the fact that Farah got his first gold the year he was 28 years old means that J.I has a slight head start.
If J.I stops running at the same age as Farah was when he won his first 5000m gold, he will have one olympics and two world championships to try to bridge the gap. If he will have a career as long as Farah, he will have two olympics and four(?) world championships to do the same. Curious how you can be so certain that Ingebrigtsen will never achieve that?
Farah won the Viren Olympic double - the 5k/10k in consecutive Olympics. Ingebrigtsen will NEVER do that. He isn't a 10k runner.
It's not "irrelevant drivel", it's applying your own scrutiny to runners. You bring up the 10000 in a discussion about the 5000 because you know your argument is weak because you keep backtracking, you're saying Farah being slower than Jakob is irrelevant for his status as a 5000 great, yet Jakob has to match Cheptegeis times to be equal.
You're saying Jakob being the fastest in the 1500 is irrelevant because he's losing to Kerr but never once respond to the point that Cheptegei finish 8th at Rio and 9th at Eugene, a race that Jakob won in Eugene. You decry time trialists for not being able to show up and perform in championship races and call Jakob a time trialist in the 1500.
But Cheptegei who regularly drops out of championship races and has performed horribly in every single 5000 global championship but one apparently doesn't make Cheptegei a time trialist despite Jakobs championship record in the 1500 being better than Cheptegeis in the 5000.
You don't even know the basics about runners you're arguing about, like in the past when you kept claiming Farah has "never lost when it matters" despite him losing many, many times in both the World championships and Olympics.
As I said, round and round your mulberry bush. None of it makes Jakob a distance runner or as fast as Cheptegei or as good as Farah.
So what makes someone a distance runner if being unbeaten in 5000 finals as an adult and being faster than greats like Farah doesn't qualify you as one?
How can you know that? Farah, with a PR of 12.53 achieved three 5000m wc golds and two 5000m olympic golds. That means that J.I needs to get one more WC gold and one more olympic gold. While it is not certain that J.I will ever win another 5000m medal, the fact that Farah got his first gold the year he was 28 years old means that J.I has a slight head start.
If J.I stops running at the same age as Farah was when he won his first 5000m gold, he will have one olympics and two world championships to try to bridge the gap. If he will have a career as long as Farah, he will have two olympics and four(?) world championships to do the same. Curious how you can be so certain that Ingebrigtsen will never achieve that?
Farah won the Viren Olympic double - the 5k/10k in consecutive Olympics. Ingebrigtsen will NEVER do that. He isn't a 10k runner.
Armstrongliv you have great presaging ability because you understand the sport of running very well. You can size up a persons psychology and physiology profile very well just from a few loose bits of information and for some like Khamis they can log information about a person’s space-time based on geolocational man-made elektramagnetico fields.
why do we need Google services when we can employ you and especially Khamis to PROFILE human nature and behaviour?
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If anybody is wondering how intellectually dishonest this man is then this sums it up perfectly, because the exact same thing applies to Jakob and Cheptegei in the 5000.
No it doesn't. It's just the way you shuffle the cards to try to say Jakob is as good as better distance runners. He isn't.
So with your logic you think Van Niekerk is the current best 400 meter runner on the planet, when he hasn't medaled since 2017, if Cheptegei can be the best with just a single global gold medal and a world record despite being too embarrassed to even show up for global finals and embarrassing himself when he does show up.
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This just in guys, even if Jakob runs a 3:26.000000001 - he would not be a 3:26 guy.
No time is measured to that absurd degree. By several tenths of a second and a few hundredths Ingebrigtsen is not a 3:26 runner. A 10.2 runner over the 100m is just as close to Bolt's world record. The claim that Ingebrigtsen is a 3:26 runner is misleading here because it is the world record and the only runner who is a 3:26 runner so far is El G and Ingebrigtsen has not equalled his world mark.
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As I said, round and round your mulberry bush. None of it makes Jakob a distance runner or as fast as Cheptegei or as good as Farah.
So what makes someone a distance runner if being unbeaten in 5000 finals as an adult and being faster than greats like Farah doesn't qualify you as one?
He is an outstanding md runner - although not as good as El G. He is a 1500/5k exponent - whatever claims he makes to the contrary. He has not done anything to show he is a 5k/10k runner like Farah or Bekele, or a marathon runner, which is my understanding of a distance runner.
He may have a faster time than Farah over 5k but Farah's global championship victories in both the 5k and the 10k leave him in the dust as a distance runner.
No it doesn't. It's just the way you shuffle the cards to try to say Jakob is as good as better distance runners. He isn't.
So with your logic you think Van Niekerk is the current best 400 meter runner on the planet, when he hasn't medaled since 2017, if Cheptegei can be the best with just a single global gold medal and a world record despite being too embarrassed to even show up for global finals and embarrassing himself when he does show up.
No, that isn't my "logic". The runners I have compared with Ingebrigtsen are either way way faster over the 5k or have achieved many more global victories than he has in distance events. Until he draws close, by either measure, he isn't comparable.
Cheptegei hasn't been "embarrassed". He holds the world records and achieved a more impressive win in one of his specialty events at the Olympics than did Ingebrigtsen. Ingebrigtsen's boasting followed by being passed in the home straight by 3 other runners at Paris in the 1500 is more of an embarrassment.
So no answer as to what Jakob's PB is. Another question - is Josh Kerr a 3:27 man?
Ingebrigtsen has run 3:26.73. Moron. That isn't 3:26, which is the wr. If I might correct an earlier comparison, he is as close in terms of time to Bolt's 100m world record as a 10.31 runner.
Kerr isn't a 3:27 runner till he runs that time. 10ths and hundredths of seconds don't miraculously disappear.
The facts show that while Ingebrigtsen may be a great md runner - a 1500/5k runner, like El G - he has not established the credentials of being a great distance runner, which includes the events from the 5k up - the 10k, to possibly the HM and marathon. He likely never will. It isn't where his talent lies.
This just in guys, even if Jakob runs a 3:26.000000001 - he would not be a 3:26 guy.
No time is measured to that absurd degree. By several tenths of a second and a few hundredths Ingebrigtsen is not a 3:26 runner. A 10.2 runner over the 100m is just as close to Bolt's world record. The claim that Ingebrigtsen is a 3:26 runner is misleading here because it is the world record and the only runner who is a 3:26 runner so far is El G and Ingebrigtsen has not equalled his world mark.
So what makes someone a distance runner if being unbeaten in 5000 finals as an adult and being faster than greats like Farah doesn't qualify you as one?
He is an outstanding md runner - although not as good as El G. He is a 1500/5k exponent - whatever claims he makes to the contrary. He has not done anything to show he is a 5k/10k runner like Farah or Bekele, or a marathon runner, which is my understanding of a distance runner.
He may have a faster time than Farah over 5k but Farah's global championship victories in both the 5k and the 10k leave him in the dust as a distance runner.
Last I checked the 5000 is a long distance event and not a middle distance event, so yes, never losing in the 5000 makes him a distance runner.
And your definition of "leaving him in the dust" is having one more Olympic gold and one more Worlds gold than someone who's four years younger than what Farah was when he won his first global gold?
So with your logic you think Van Niekerk is the current best 400 meter runner on the planet, when he hasn't medaled since 2017, if Cheptegei can be the best with just a single global gold medal and a world record despite being too embarrassed to even show up for global finals and embarrassing himself when he does show up.
No, that isn't my "logic". The runners I have compared with Ingebrigtsen are either way way faster over the 5k or have achieved many more global victories than he has in distance events. Until he draws close, by either measure, he isn't comparable.
Cheptegei hasn't been "embarrassed". He holds the world records and achieved a more impressive win in one of his specialty events at the Olympics than did Ingebrigtsen. Ingebrigtsen's boasting followed by being passed in the home straight by 3 other runners at Paris in the 1500 is more of an embarrassment.
You're saying it's more embarrassing for someone who isn't the world record holder to finish fourth than it is for the world record holder to finish 9th? What on Earth are you talking about? What makes Cheptegeis win more impressive than any of Jakobs global gold medals?
If I might correct an earlier comparison, he is as close in terms of time to Bolt's 100m world record as a 10.31 runner.
You are dogsh*t at counting just like you're dogsh*t at everything else. Jakob's 3:26.73 is to 3:26 flat as 9.61 is to 9.58. Percentages are above your pay grade, huh?
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