Actually no! I and others in multiple earlier threads got tired of asking you to provide a refutable definition of a woman, but all you spouted was transphobic social sciencey nonscience, so it was curious to see you mention the SRY gene in defining a woman and the very first post you mentioned it fairly recently, you got it wrong, so I assumed you were still learning basic biology.
You'll never be us, no matter how much you gaslight and insult us. We've all known people like you. You're probably in computer science or engineering. You might be quiet or polite in person, but you're seething inside. You seethe all over these message boards, taking pleasure in manipulation and pointing to minor mistakes made by others because you can't stand to look at your own insufficiency. You have disdain for relatively well-adjusted people because you feel empty inside. Most likely, people who meet you can see the emptiness and the self-hatred fronting as smug arrogance. It's certainly obvious here. Nothing you've written holds a candle to the information and argumentation offered by most of the users you're hellbent on attacking. Your style of aggression and trolling is distinctly male because you are a man or a bot set up to imitate a man with borderline and narcissistic personality disorders. Nothing you write or do will ever change that.
The way you behave, where sincere or trolling, causes real damage to gender non-conforming people. You may think it's fun, but others recognize it for what it is--the ramblings of a disturbed person.
Actually no! I and others in multiple earlier threads got tired of asking you to provide a refutable definition of a woman, but all you spouted was transphobic social sciencey nonscience, so it was curious to see you mention the SRY gene in defining a woman and the very first post you mentioned it fairly recently, you got it wrong, so I assumed you were still learning basic biology.
You'll never be us, no matter how much you gaslight and insult us. We've all known people like you. You're probably in computer science or engineering. You might be quiet or polite in person, but you're seething inside. You seethe all over these message boards, taking pleasure in manipulation and pointing to minor mistakes made by others because you can't stand to look at your own insufficiency. You have disdain for relatively well-adjusted people because you feel empty inside. Most likely, people who meet you can see the emptiness and the self-hatred fronting as smug arrogance. It's certainly obvious here. Nothing you've written holds a candle to the information and argumentation offered by most of the users you're hellbent on attacking. Your style of aggression and trolling is distinctly male because you are a man or a bot set up to imitate a man with borderline and narcissistic personality disorders. Nothing you write or do will ever change that.
The way you behave, where sincere or trolling, causes real damage to gender non-conforming people. You may think it's fun, but others recognize it for what it is--the ramblings of a disturbed person.
Such a delusional post.
Why do so many people think they know the minds of people they disagree with?
that is frankly a stupid person’s perspective and bad for sports in general
How you do figure? I mean, it's a pretty common thing around these boards for people to champion "American-born" records. Those that do seem to think that people born outside of the US, particularly in East Africa, have an unfair advantage. Does that mean they should have their own classification for racing? Does that mean the non-African born athletes should get a head start in the race?
No, we just acknowledge that some athletes have an unfair advantage and go on with the show. You can't create a situation where every athlete on the start line has the same prospects of winning. Don't even bother.
Who is claiming the East African advantage is unfair? I don't think any serious athletes are claiming that; maybe some guy on a barstool somewhere. You say "we just acknowledge that some athletes have an unfair advantage", can you give some examples, other than transwomen?
You'll never be us, no matter how much you gaslight and insult us. We've all known people like you. You're probably in computer science or engineering. You might be quiet or polite in person, but you're seething inside. You seethe all over these message boards, taking pleasure in manipulation and pointing to minor mistakes made by others because you can't stand to look at your own insufficiency. You have disdain for relatively well-adjusted people because you feel empty inside. Most likely, people who meet you can see the emptiness and the self-hatred fronting as smug arrogance. It's certainly obvious here. Nothing you've written holds a candle to the information and argumentation offered by most of the users you're hellbent on attacking. Your style of aggression and trolling is distinctly male because you are a man or a bot set up to imitate a man with borderline and narcissistic personality disorders. Nothing you write or do will ever change that.
The way you behave, where sincere or trolling, causes real damage to gender non-conforming people. You may think it's fun, but others recognize it for what it is--the ramblings of a disturbed person.
Such a delusional post.
Why do so many people think they know the minds of people they disagree with?
Because any person with a modicum of knowledge about psychiatric disturbances can recognize patterns of manipulation, aggression, and arrogance.
If I really wrote that, and I'm not going to check, it's obvious to anybody who regularly reads what I write that I meant to write "without." Who knows, maybe I was "PMessy" at the time or was suffering from hysteria. I do run a lot, so maybe my uterus detached from its usual position and began roaming around my abdomen. Maybe found itself all the way to my head and bumped into my brain!
Actually no! I and others in multiple earlier threads got tired of asking you to provide a refutable definition of a woman, but all you spouted was transphobic social sciencey nonscience, so it was curious to see you mention the SRY gene in defining a woman and the very first post you mentioned it fairly recently, you got it wrong, so I assumed you were still learning basic biology.
Hey dude. The SRY gene codes for male sex determination and differentiation. Without it, you'd develop into a woman. This isn't difficult.
Letting biological males compete against women is like letting certain athletes freely use EPO without testing while others are tested daily. It's a massive unfair advantage.
Actually no! I and others in multiple earlier threads got tired of asking you to provide a refutable definition of a woman, but all you spouted was transphobic social sciencey nonscience, so it was curious to see you mention the SRY gene in defining a woman and the very first post you mentioned it fairly recently, you got it wrong, so I assumed you were still learning basic biology.
You'll never be us, no matter how much you gaslight and insult us. We've all known people like you. You're probably in computer science or engineering. You might be quiet or polite in person, but you're seething inside. You seethe all over these message boards, taking pleasure in manipulation and pointing to minor mistakes made by others because you can't stand to look at your own insufficiency. You have disdain for relatively well-adjusted people because you feel empty inside. Most likely, people who meet you can see the emptiness and the self-hatred fronting as smug arrogance. It's certainly obvious here. Nothing you've written holds a candle to the information and argumentation offered by most of the users you're hellbent on attacking. Your style of aggression and trolling is distinctly male because you are a man or a bot set up to imitate a man with borderline and narcissistic personality disorders. Nothing you write or do will ever change that.
The way you behave, where sincere or trolling, causes real damage to gender non-conforming people. You may think it's fun, but others recognize it for what it is--the ramblings of a disturbed person.
Ha ha ha ha, projection much? I have no reason to hate anyone (including you). I happily take credit for attacking words you and others post, especially transphobia or inanity therein.
Actually no! I and others in multiple earlier threads got tired of asking you to provide a refutable definition of a woman, but all you spouted was transphobic social sciencey nonscience, so it was curious to see you mention the SRY gene in defining a woman and the very first post you mentioned it fairly recently, you got it wrong, so I assumed you were still learning basic biology.
You'll never be us, no matter how much you gaslight and insult us. We've all known people like you. You're probably in computer science or engineering. You might be quiet or polite in person, but you're seething inside. You seethe all over these message boards, taking pleasure in manipulation and pointing to minor mistakes made by others because you can't stand to look at your own insufficiency. You have disdain for relatively well-adjusted people because you feel empty inside. Most likely, people who meet you can see the emptiness and the self-hatred fronting as smug arrogance. It's certainly obvious here. Nothing you've written holds a candle to the information and argumentation offered by most of the users you're hellbent on attacking. Your style of aggression and trolling is distinctly male because you are a man or a bot set up to imitate a man with borderline and narcissistic personality disorders. Nothing you write or do will ever change that.
The way you behave, where sincere or trolling, causes real damage to gender non-conforming people. You may think it's fun, but others recognize it for what it is--the ramblings of a disturbed person.
You can look at all your posts here and in other threads, and between the two of us, you are the one constantly attacking me for the presumed person you think I am as opposed to just the content of my posts.
My posts’ criticism is always the content of your posts and, I admit, not easy to swallow (though you must grant they at least have a touch of levity in them), but I have zero interest in or presumptions of the person you are outside of the words you splatter here.
Your claim will come as news to "Everyman" - and every woman - who contributed to the new FINA or World Aquatics' regulations that came into force last year - rules that "Everyman," every woman, and every boy and girl subject to FINA/World Aquatics has to follow. Those rules say:
All athletes must certify their chromosomal sex with their Member Federation in order to be eligible for FINA competitions. Failure to do so, or provision of a false certification, will render the athlete ineligible.
Member Federations must confirm their athletes’ certifications of chromosomal sex when registering their athletes to compete in FINA competitions
FINA reserves the right to include a chromosomal sex screen in its anti- doping protocol to confirm such certification.
Sounds like you are not disagreeing with anything I actually said above (which didn’t include FINA).
Look up what “everyman” means instead of being a deliberate literal dunderhead.
Huh? It takes a mighty big ego to think that what I said was agreeing with you, LOL.
I specifically took issue with your claim that "The federal government, DMV, and World Athletics, and Everyman doesn’t care to verify anyone’s karyotype for anything of substance in the real world."
The problem with "Everyman" generally - and its use in this thread in particular - is that it's a sexist term that assumes the experiences and perspective of the "average, ordinary man" like you, mate, is representative of the experiences and views of all human beings. When that's not the case. At all.
Because you only take other males into account when you compose and issue the grand albeit fatuous statements you post that you seem think apply to Everyman, there's actually a great deal that you totally miss.
For example, your pronouncements aboutut karyotping and genetic testing show you don't have a clue about how common fetal karyotyping and genetic testing are during human pregnancies - and you are also oblivious to how long this has been the case.
Whilst you and many other Everyman types seem to have missed this, the fact is that fetal karotyping and genetic testing have been a standard part of prenatal care in higher risk pregancies in countries with "modern medicine" for more than half a century, and this sort of testing is now the norm in all pregnancies where women have access to basic medical care.
Fetal chromosome testing using DNA collected via amniocentesis has been done for more than 50 years, and via CVS since the mid-late 80s. I personally had CVS when just 9 weeks pregnant so long ago that the individuals I was pregnant with then are all over 30 now.
Nowadays, information about the chromosomes and genes of human fetuses is routinely obtained from 10 weeks of pregnancy on via the NIPT, which tests fetal cells in pregnant women's blood taken from samples drawn through vein puncture in the standard way. The NIPT is now offered to all pregnant under medical care in countries like the US and UK as a matter of course.
Chromosome analysis and genetic testing have been done on fetal remains following miscarriage for decades too, particularly when women have had multiple miscarriages. That's how medical specialists have been able to determine that a high proportion - 50% - of the many human pregnancies that end in miscarriage involve a chromosomal abnomality.
Turner syndrome - a disorder of female sex development where the karyotype is 45,XO - alone is said to occur in 15% of confirmed pregnancies that end in miscarriage.
This information has been able to be discovered because whilst it might true that "Everyman doesn’t care to verify anyone’s karyotype for anything of substance in the real world" like you say, the same certainly can't be said for every woman.
Indeed, most women who've ever been pregnant or will become pregnant - like the overhwemling majority of the women in the world have been or will be - actually care about karotyping a great deal. And for reasons some of us think are "of subtance" too. .
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Actually no! I and others in multiple earlier threads got tired of asking you to provide a refutable definition of a woman, but all you spouted was transphobic social sciencey nonscience, so it was curious to see you mention the SRY gene in defining a woman and the very first post you mentioned it fairly recently, you got it wrong, so I assumed you were still learning basic biology.
Hey dude. The SRY gene codes for male sex determination and differentiation. Without it, you'd develop into a woman. This isn't difficult.
Sweetheart, the definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect a different result.
Sounds like you are not disagreeing with anything I actually said above (which didn’t include FINA).
Look up what “everyman” means instead of being a deliberate literal dunderhead.
Huh? It takes a mighty big ego to think that what I said was agreeing with you, LOL.
I specifically took issue with your claim that "The federal government, DMV, and World Athletics, and Everyman doesn’t care to verify anyone’s karyotype for anything of substance in the real world."
The problem with "Everyman" generally - and its use in this thread in particular - is that it's a sexist term that assumes the experiences and perspective of the "average, ordinary man" like you, mate, is representative of the experiences and views of all human beings. When that's not the case. At all.
Because you only take other males into account when you compose and issue the grand albeit fatuous statements you post that you seem think apply to Everyman, there's actually a great deal that you totally miss.
For example, your pronouncements aboutut karyotping and genetic testing show you don't have a clue about how common fetal karyotyping and genetic testing are during human pregnancies - and you are also oblivious to how long this has been the case.
Whilst you and many other Everyman types seem to have missed this, the fact is that fetal karotyping and genetic testing have been a standard part of prenatal care in higher risk pregancies in countries with "modern medicine" for more than half a century, and this sort of testing is now the norm in all pregnancies where women have access to basic medical care.
Fetal chromosome testing using DNA collected via amniocentesis has been done for more than 50 years, and via CVS since the mid-late 80s. I personally had CVS when just 9 weeks pregnant so long ago that the individuals I was pregnant with then are all over 30 now.
Nowadays, information about the chromosomes and genes of human fetuses is routinely obtained from 10 weeks of pregnancy on via the NIPT, which tests fetal cells in pregnant women's blood taken from samples drawn in the standard way. The NIPT offered to all pregnant under medical care in countries like the US and UK as a matter of course.
Chromosome analysis and genetic testing has been done on fetal remains following miscarriage for decades too, particularly when women have had multiple miscarriages. That's how doctors have been able to determine that a high proportion - 50% - of the many pregnancies that end in miscarriage involve a chromosomal abnomality.
Turner syndrome - a disorder of female sex development where the karyotype is 45,XO - alone is said to occur in 15% of cases of confirmed pregnancy that end in miscarriage.
This is is known because whilst it might true that "Everyman doesn’t care to verify anyone’s karyotype for anything of substance in the real world" like you say, the same certainly can't be said for every woman.
Indeed, most women who've ever been pregnant or will become pregnant - like the overhwemling majority of the women in the world - actually care about karotyping a great deal - and for reasons some of us think are "of subtance" too. .
Don’t be a deliberately obtuse chowderhead. The sexism is all in your head and unrelated to the topic of this thread.
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Are you really going to insist that he's a woman? You all see exactly what I see: he is a man. His gender is male, he is not a "mentally ill" or "delusional woman", he is simply a man born with the wrong version of human sexual and reproductive organs. If you saw him in person, you would see exactly what I see and everyone else in the world sees. He is a man.
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Again, you all see exactly the same thing that I see. She is a woman, and not a man. Her gender identity is obvious and observable. She has female brain wiring, lives in the world as woman, looks like a woman, and is a woman. The only thing that is delusional, absurd, and out of touch with reality is insisting that these individuals Laith is a woman and Jazz is a man, when they clearly are not.
Gender identity is also real, observable, neurologically based, and in most cases blatantly obvious.
Here is transman Laith Ashley Are you really going to insist that he's a woman? You all see exactly what I see: he is a man. His gender is male, he is not a "mentally ill" or "delusional woman", he is simply a man born with the wrong version of human sexual and reproductive organs. If you saw him in person, you would see exactly what I see and everyone else in the world sees. He is a man.
Here is transwoman Jazz Jennings Again, you all see exactly the same thing that I see. She is a woman, and not a man. Her gender identity is obvious and observable. She has female brain wiring, lives in the world as woman, looks like a woman, and is a woman. The only thing that is delusional, absurd, and out of touch with reality is insisting that these individuals Laith is a woman and Jazz is a man, when they clearly are not.
For some reason, the transphobia on this site is readily accompanied by a form of misandry, or I suppose misphallicism, that sympathizes with Laith and sees no problem with his existence but views Jazz as the epitome of mental illness and fetishistic perversions.
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