And you still can't comprehend the idea that cross country courses can run very differently due to conditions, surface, and changes in setup year to year
You don't think it's possible they set the course up differently and it's a short course!
And for the last time the second place girl lost at Nationals last year by 50 seconds
And she lost this race by 60 seconds and she had no reason to push it as she won over third place by 30 seconds
You don't think she would be a little more motivated to run hard at Nationals
Again this is a really good performance but it's not an off the charts in comprehensible performance
It's simply a fast girl running against much slow girls and beating them by what you would expect her to beat them by if she has a good race and they don't!!!
And you still can't comprehend the idea that cross country courses can run very differently due to conditions, surface, and changes in setup year to year
You don't think it's possible they set the course up differently and it's a short course!
If it's "possible" the course was measured short, what is the evidence for it? If that's your test, it's just as "possible" she's doping. Some might say probable.
And for the last time the second place girl lost at Nationals last year by 50 seconds
And she lost this race by 60 seconds and she had no reason to push it as she won over third place by 30 seconds
You don't think she would be a little more motivated to run hard at Nationals
Again this is a really good performance but it's not an off the charts in comprehensible performance
It's simply a fast girl running against much slow girls and beating them by what you would expect her to beat them by if she has a good race and they don't!!!
If your argument followed, no one would have posted a thread on her achievement. It wouldn't have been an exceptional run. There are some here - who seem to know about about these things than you do - who think it was an amazingly good performance - given the record, what the time meant for 5k, her degree of improvement and coming off an injury break.
Right like no one posted a thread saying brynn Brown's hs performances and workouts in high school were amazing and off the charts
News flash for you, people are not that smart, they are emotional, reactive, volatile, wishful thinkers who have a tendency to over exaggerate and over embellish
I mean seriously you're not aware of this?
Anyway the rest of the season will show who is right and I guarantee you she won't be dominating when she runs against strong competition
And I guess Jenna Hutchins is the greatest high School runner ever and broke every record because someone started a thread about it
You haven't read what this thread has identified in her performance that makes it stand out. Your argument comes down to saying little more than that it wasn't a particularly "impressive" performance. By what standards? There would be few followers of US running who would agree.
And for the last time the second place girl lost at Nationals last year by 50 seconds
And she lost this race by 60 seconds and she had no reason to push it as she won over third place by 30 seconds
You don't think she would be a little more motivated to run hard at Nationals
Again this is a really good performance but it's not an off the charts in comprehensible performance
It's simply a fast girl running against much slow girls and beating them by what you would expect her to beat them by if she has a good race and they don't!!!
Your points keep referring to the other runners 5k and last years times. How do you know they have not improved? That is a big assumption.
Fwiw, Astro predicted this exact scenario on the boards, that Valby would drop another massive PB after layoff.
What ‘layoff’? Are you now saying she hasn’t been training?
Of course she’s been evidently training. And if she has been training well, and consistently, then it is not rocket science to predict her time will drop from the previous time when she was coming off a foot injury.
Your post is idiotic and cringeworthy, something like “I predict if athlete A gets too fast and threatens tooee (evident by a new PR) then they are doping.”
so she has dropped 30 seconds....from June if you use this result
She was coming off a broken foot in June. Why is it unusual to be significantly faster now, with uninterrupted training?
She was coming off the broken foot at conference champs, regionals and nationals where she PBd in every event, by a lot each time. She had surgery in June after nationals for something else and is coming off of that issue now.
And for the last time the second place girl lost at Nationals last year by 50 seconds
And she lost this race by 60 seconds and she had no reason to push it as she won over third place by 30 seconds
You don't think she would be a little more motivated to run hard at Nationals
Again this is a really good performance but it's not an off the charts in comprehensible performance
It's simply a fast girl running against much slow girls and beating them by what you would expect her to beat them by if she has a good race and they don't!!!
If your argument followed, no one would have posted a thread on her achievement. It wouldn't have been an exceptional run. There are some here - who seem to know about about these things than you do - who think it was an amazingly good performance - given the record, what the time meant for 5k, her degree of improvement and coming off an injury break.
I guess:
1) The course was short this time despite A&M being a very good engineering school
2) Noone in the field has improved since last year
3) The 2nd place runner just wasn't trying too hard
4) The LACCTiC ratings of the field going into the race were just wrong
She was coming off a broken foot in June. Why is it unusual to be significantly faster now, with uninterrupted training?
She was coming off the broken foot at conference champs, regionals and nationals where she PBd in every event, by a lot each time. She had surgery in June after nationals for something else and is coming off of that issue now.
That is what I meant. She set a PB at Nationals after having a broken foot, and evidently discoverrd the wonders of (evidently) massive cross-training.
What was the surgery in June? Minor or Major? Was it related to the foot injury? Regardless, it’s not very relevant now If she has been getting in quality training the past few months.
One interesting question is just how good can Valby get with a year or two of consistent quality training/diet, etc.
She was coming off the broken foot at conference champs, regionals and nationals where she PBd in every event, by a lot each time. She had surgery in June after nationals for something else and is coming off of that issue now.
That is what I meant. She set a PB at Nationals after having a broken foot, and evidently discoverrd the wonders of (evidently) massive cross-training.
What was the surgery in June? Minor or Major? Was it related to the foot injury? Regardless, it’s not very relevant now If she has been getting in quality training the past few months.
One interesting question is just how good can Valby get with a year or two of consistent quality training/diet, etc.
She mentioned in an interview she was going to have to take some time off after the "surgery" whatever it was. This was in late June.
something I don't understand but maybe those who know Valby better, or running better than I can explain is how Valby is this talented, yet having started competing in the fall of 2016 (9th grade) was still only running 2:30ish, 5:10ish and 11:00ish for 800, 1 and 2 miles in the Spring of 2018? She seemed to run full seasons for XC in 2016 and 2017 and track in 2018 and 2018. A year later something starts clicking and she runs 10:10 in 2019. She was certainly not as good as Tuohy initially was in 7th grade coming off the soccer field (2:17, 4:55).
something I don't understand but maybe those who know Valby better, or running better than I can explain is how Valby is this talented, yet having started competing in the fall of 2016 (9th grade) was still only running 2:30ish, 5:10ish and 11:00ish for 800, 1 and 2 miles in the Spring of 2018? She seemed to run full seasons for XC in 2016 and 2017 and track in 2018 and 2018. A year later something starts clicking and she runs 10:10 in 2019. She was certainly not as good as Tuohy initially was in 7th grade coming off the soccer field (2:17, 4:55).