Official 2020 Monaco DL Discussion Thread

So, will this be a sub-8 steeple chase time?

seasoned ranker wrote:

Does it? Seemed to be significant human error in the men's 1500m pacing.

You're really comparing a three-lap-then-kick race to a 12 lapper, my guy?

C/M Runner wrote:

So, will this be a sub-8 steeple chase time?

Nope. It ends on a blah. 8:08

also, was there lighting for the 1500? i wasn't paying attention

George213 wrote:

Hyce Broppel wrote:

Cheptegei for the next Quadruple Double + World Record in 5 and 10, Mo Farah soon to be forgotten with his tactical sprints.

That's I always deem it a mistake on Mo's part not giving the 5k or 10k's WR a go. He once had it in him, but he just never tried.

I think his performances in the marathon prove that he did not have those world records in him, he was just an incredible finisher.

El Bakkali looks like someone took Julien Wanders, stretched him out a tiny bit, and aged him for ~ 5-10 years. Tell me I’m wrong.

Mo Farah was handing it to mid 12:40s guys year after year, so he was surely capable of breaking 12:40 himself. But he did not have that mentality. He was always a racer even when he wasn't good enough. Go back and look at his strategy in championships before his breakthrough. He'd go to the lead with about 1k to go. He just wouldn't be able to hold it the last 300m.

zxcvzxcv wrote:

I wasn't able to find the telecast in time for the 800m, but they showed the finish and Hoppel looked so easy, smiling and it almost seemed as if he was not wanting to upstage Brazier; he looked that good. NCAA champs in the 800m so often run 1:45 or high 1:44. Only a few get down to the low 1:44s. He'd already done that last year, but what he's done now is what even the best NCAA champs almost never do. Symmonds, a D3 champ, was stuck in the mid to high 1:43s for years until 2012. Hoppel dropped a second from his pr here. He looks very much sub 1:43 capable the way he looked here. A bright future for the U.S. in the 800m.

Here's the replay:

seasoned ranker wrote:

Does it? Seemed to be significant human error in the men's 1500m pacing.

I’d say it does. One has to follow the lights for it to work..like the pacers in the 5,000m were basically right on target first two km

right, but no one was running in the 12:40s in championships. he was able to access his sprint speed at 13:00-13:30 races with 4:30/4:40 for most of the race, and just a 4-low last mile, but that doesn't mean he could've held a 4-low pace for a full 5000. 12:53 is impressive and maybe he could've gotten to 12:40s, but there's no guarantee.

sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

George213 wrote:

That's I always deem it a mistake on Mo's part not giving the 5k or 10k's WR a go. He once had it in him, but he just never tried.

I think his performances in the marathon prove that he did not have those world records in him, he was just an incredible finisher.

His performance in the 2017 WC 10k is indicative of 26:20-ish at worst in a time trial style race.

WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW wrote:

seasoned ranker wrote:

Does it? Seemed to be significant human error in the men's 1500m pacing.

You're really comparing a three-lap-then-kick race to a 12 lapper, my guy?

I'm not comparing anything. I'm pointing out the clear error in making the statement that wave lighting eliminates human error in pacing.

Tron wrote:

seasoned ranker wrote:

Does it? Seemed to be significant human error in the men's 1500m pacing.

I’d say it does. One has to follow the lights for it to work..like the pacers in the 5,000m were basically right on target first two km

You just admitted that it doesn't.

I would think after a WR in that heat he should have been totally spent. He could have done another 69 sec 400 m by how he looked. I would like to believe he’s clean but I have my doubts. I’ll just enjoy it for what it is .... for now at least

Yeah but then you have to pass through germy US airports to get there. And possibly be with other germy Americans on the plane.

Look at it this way. There always will be technology that will help runners face faster. 2004 was 16 years ago. Imagine 20 years from now when someone runs 12:25 for 5000m

Race not face. lol

Deebo wrote:

Possibly a Forerunner 35? Can anyone confirm?

Hopefully he puts it on his Strava and makes it official

seasoned ranker wrote:

Tron wrote:

I’d say it does. One has to follow the lights for it to work..like the pacers in the 5,000m were basically right on target first two km

You just admitted that it doesn't.

It does if they follow the lights though..that’s my point. If someone chooses not to of course they won’t work. Pacers in a 5,000m will have easier time going out at a specific pace without guessing how fast they are going. That’s a big advantage