This thread was originally titled, "Incredible development in the $612,000 Transcon Goodge run, currently ongoing" but the new title is more descriptive. The description of the run is here.
Not what we're asking for. You've said that so many times and NO-ONE CARES. We want an accessible view from the Garmin app. If he doesn't want "stalking" like you weirdly think he will, pass the link privately to Pete or Rob. I'm sure they would have a good idea and would be respected if they think he's for real.
This is so deliberately obtuse that it makes you seem inauthentic.
NOBODY is talking about his InReach tracker. We want to see the Garmin source files from his watch(es).
Combined with your “science lesson” video where you clearly show the Strava app graphs where the Y-axis starts at ~100spm, it seems you are deliberately trying to cause confusion and are making people more suspicious.
we know that you know, because you claim to be a stats nerd
This is so deliberately obtuse that it makes you seem inauthentic.
NOBODY is talking about his InReach tracker. We want to see the Garmin source files from his watch(es).
Combined with your “science lesson” video where you clearly show the Strava app graphs where the Y-axis starts at ~100spm, it seems you are deliberately trying to cause confusion and are making people more suspicious.
we know that you know, because you claim to be a stats nerd
This comment is directed at StreetFerret, forgot to quote
That's what feeds the website. We'll get a link added to the live tracker site as well.
.kml is new to me, so, sorry if I get this wrong.
.kml is really just a bunch of coordinates with a bit of metadata attached. No cadence. No HR. No elevation.
I think streetferret knows no one cares about his website or his tracker, but it's literally the only thing he can talk about to try to distract?
Its an obvious distraction technique and every single video and post by Streetferret is drawing more suspicious.
First it’s the trick this morning, same thing Paul did, showing the Strava app with the y-axis starting at 100 instead of zero. But we can see on desktop it is clearly zero.
Now posting the Garmin InReach instead of the actual fit files. Obvious distraction and the only conclusion is that Streetferret is part of the scam.
.kml is really just a bunch of coordinates with a bit of metadata attached. No cadence. No HR. No elevation.
I think streetferret knows no one cares about his website or his tracker, but it's literally the only thing he can talk about to try to distract?
Its an obvious distraction technique and every single video and post by Streetferret is drawing more suspicious.
First it’s the trick this morning, same thing Paul did, showing the Strava app with the y-axis starting at 100 instead of zero. But we can see on desktop it is clearly zero.
Now posting the Garmin InReach instead of the actual fit files. Obvious distraction and the only conclusion is that Streetferret is part of the scam.
the two guys that run streetweasel are just two amateur coders that are in PJ run club in Newport, RI. Of course they are part of this
Its an obvious distraction technique and every single video and post by Streetferret is drawing more suspicious.
First it’s the trick this morning, same thing Paul did, showing the Strava app with the y-axis starting at 100 instead of zero. But we can see on desktop it is clearly zero.
Now posting the Garmin InReach instead of the actual fit files. Obvious distraction and the only conclusion is that Streetferret is part of the scam.
the two guys that run streetweasel are just two amateur coders that are in PJ run club in Newport, RI. Of course they are part of this
I wondered why PJ used such an amateur tracking service to begin with. It makes so much sense now, because they can help with the manipulation and gaslighting. They’ve created three videos defending Paul. Apparently they’re stats nerds but have not even tried to look into the fit/gpx data or ask PJ for that.
Their latest video is beyond a joke. I donated money to this and I’ve been on the fence about the whole thing, really hoping that Paul was legit. This coordinated effort to gaslight the public implies something far more sinister.
FREE THE GARMIN FILES. LET US SEE THE .FIT or .GPX
Hello everyone, Rob Pope here - the British Forrest Gump (just happened to be the Australian marathon champion once) 😀
I heard I'd been mentioned so I thought I'd pop in.
My cadence drop outs were due to me using a stroller and pushing it predominantly with my watch hand, so unlike the pole issue, my wrist doesn't swing and therefore doesn't register on the accelerometer. If you was want to go hunting for when I was supported (about 45% of the time, so August 2017 would be a good time, for example), you'll see no cadence drop outs.
I concur with those that say he needs to share his Connect data.
Of course I knew all that, Rob. I only posted you as an example to highlight that there are real reasons why cadence drop outs occur and that you won't find much difference between the Strava vs Garmin for cadence drop out when comparing the downloaded data (not using the dumb Strava graphs)
The second one is a really tiny run, no need to link to that. No-one in the community is stupid enough to think that cadence cutting out is a problem. The first has a few hundred yards that are a bit strange, but we're worried about up to 10k at a time of real oddness. Day after day after day.
Compare his runs to the ES100. A nightmare event for him, trekking poles pretty much all the way, loads of climbing, super slow but NO cadence cut outs when moving. Countless Cadence zeroes where he's stopping but none of this awful 1...2...3...5 k of zero cadence.
Allow me to prove you wrong yet again. Remember what I taught you about the dumb Strava graphs? You are making the same mistakes, yet again.
From that 2023-08-12 Strava upload of PJ's, you claim as a reference run where there are "NO cadence cut outs when moving". You are absolutely wrong.
I downloaded the 58446 data points that are at 1 second intervals. There are about 2000 data points where he is moving at speed but recoding a cadence of zero as indicated in the stride length histogram by that 25 feet and greater bar on the far right. And the cadence dropout point count is higher than that when including the point counts of the 10 feet and greater (distance of covered by both legs).
I'm including the cadence line plot to show that there are many more cadence drop outs in the data download than you see in the simplified Strava graphs. Yet again why you should listen when I teach not to use the Strava graphs to says someone is "clean" or "cheating".
We have boots on the ground courtesy of "Silly-Beaver" on the Reddit thread. He secretly scoped PJ out on 3/18 without PJ or crew knowing and, aghast!, found that PJ was running the entire time and used trekking poles! Exactly like I've been telling on you all along that the data indicates. Now, you will turn towards smearing Silly-Beaver and saying he is a PJ shill because his eye-witness testimony doesn't line up with your prejudices of PJ's good looks.
"Silly-Beaver
I was near his route on 3/18 so decided to go scope things out a bit. Didn’t run with him or interact with him at all, just drove back and forth on the road a few times over the course of a couple hours and watched from the side. He was headed uphill towards Taos, and he did his hip swing/speed walk/limp thing the whole time and used trekking poles. The crew parked their RV a few miles ahead and then would move it ahead more as he got closer. The van did the same thing, but stayed a bit closer and gave him food and water when he got there (but he never stopped moving). Not sure what’s going on with all the data before this day or even after, but it was reassuring to see that at least for those few hours (and on an incredibly steep, high altitude portion of the course) he was actually doing the damn thing himself."
Gee whiz sneakers, if he was running for a small sample of a few hours that must prove the entire data set is the same! People say that he is still running a lot but microriding in the van, and only parts of the data are questionable rather than the entire thing and that's what the concern is. But, these stupid people are wrong because this few hours has clearly proven his innocence!
Gee whiz sneakers, if he was running for a small sample of a few hours that must prove the entire data set is the same! People say that he is still running a lot but microriding in the van, and only parts of the data are questionable rather than the entire thing and that's what the concern is. But, these stupid people are wrong because this few hours has clearly proven his innocence!
Exactly as I predicted, the jealous old ultraunners now turn to attacking the boots on the ground witness.
Something tells me that Sneakers is the sort of guy that falls for phishing emails and believes AI generated images are real
In the words of UltrarunningKid, "This is what bad faith looks like". I provide you with detailed analysis of the data along with what boots on the ground witnessed and you simply turn to personal attacks when the data and witness testimony doesn't like up with your prejudices. You have no intention of being neutral in this matter and the only things you accept to be "true" is if they say PJ cheated.
Gee whiz sneakers, if he was running for a small sample of a few hours that must prove the entire data set is the same! People say that he is still running a lot but microriding in the van, and only parts of the data are questionable rather than the entire thing and that's what the concern is. But, these stupid people are wrong because this few hours has clearly proven his innocence!
Exactly as I predicted, the jealous old ultraunners now turn to attacking the boots on the ground witness.
The quoted post wasn’t attacking the boots on the ground witness, just simply pointing out that a few hours is a small sample size. I have been sympathetic to your arguments but this is silly.
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