Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread

kirkaz wrote:

GK wrote:

Missoula 2010

Delaware 2010 (I beat him)

Boston 2010

St. Louis 2010

Shamrock Marathon

Shamrock 8k

Gasparilla 2010

Gasparilla 15k

Gasparilla 5k

RNR AZ 2010

Boston 2009

Gasparilla 2009

Gasparilla 15k

Gasparilla 5k

Can anyone top 13? I didn't realize until just now looking at his Athlinks that he picked like all the same races as me in early 2010. Sadly, the odds are good that cheated in every single one of these and there are only 2 DQ's on that list.

I've said it before. I've NEVER seen this guy! Not at the start, not during the race where he somehow passed me, and certainly not after the finish. How do you run 14 races with the same person over a year and a half, run similar times, and never see them?

My theory: (speculation)

He stays all bundled up at the start so he doesn't catch a cold. More bundled up than obese persons walking the simultaneous 5k or half marathon races taking place. Then he waits until almost everyone has crossed the starting line. Then After that, no one knows what happens exactly but somehow he only appears in racephotographers' photos near or at the finish line.

If you wait 4-5 minutes to cross the starting line, you can NOT only cut the course short and go unnoticed, but you can cross the finish line with the 3hr marathoners and your net time is 2:55. It's hilarious they let this happen at Charlotte. I believe the woman's winner there, Danielle Crockford, was on 3hr pace and even after kip came back onto the course somewhere around mile 24, I believe Danielle actually still passed Kip (I guess Kip's got such slow wheels he couldn't maintain 6:40s and keep up with a girl even with his breaks during the course cutting), only for Danielle and others to find out after the race that kip beat all of them because of his absurd 5minute chip/gun differential. And because the RD there couldn't pull the trigger, Kip got a Boston qualifier.

If/when that article gets published, it will be good for letsrun since I'm thinking the writer will mention the brilliant detective work of all of the letsrun posters. The fact you can post here semi anonymously has its advantages. While theres a lot of useless trolling, It more easily allows the sharing of damning information with less hesitation.

Speculation wrote:

Here are some of my general thoughts on Kip's cheating at the Boston Marathon.

1) Kip obviously changed outfits during the race. He could have simply shed the jacket and pants, but the hat change suggests that he had a clothes stashed somewhere along the course.

2)Don't think he could have biked or driven the course. It would be impossible to jump in at every 5k mat, Jump out, circle back to bike or car and get to the next point in time unless he biked the entire course. And we see from some of the photos that he is obviously not on a bike during the early stages.

3)So if the first two points are true, he would have to have someone helping him. We already know or at least suspect that his buddy Ben is in on this ruse. So it may be him or there may be others.

4)We clearly see photos of Kip at the 15k, 20k, and half and late stages of the race. This probably rules out 2 runners each doing a part of the course. Otherwise you wouldn't expect to see photos of Kip so early in the race. Plus the unusual splits make it unlikely that someone was really running the course.

Here is my theory: Kip and Ben? traveled to Boston together. They pick up the race chip and then program a second chip with the same code. They take two cars and leave one at the 5k point. Kip starts the race, hits the start and the 5k mats, hops in his car and drives to the 15k mat. After dropping Kip off at the start, Ben drives to the 10k mat. Waits until the right time and then sets it off with the 2nd chip. Kip runs from 15k to 25k. Ben sets off the 30k marker and Kip is back in the race from 35k until the finish. So overall Kip ends up running a 20' 5k, a 43' 10k and then a 30' 7k with nice 40' rests in between each section.

The only questions that this theory still leaves unanswered is why Kip appears to be going so slow in the 20k photo.

Anyone have any experience with programming chips. How easy would it be to program if you know what your doing. Or maybe he reported it lost and had a second one issued.