Official Israel vs Hamas thread

Let it Rupp wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

They are supposed to be at war with Hamas, but their actions have been aimed at non-combatants and the outcome is that its mostly Palestinian civilians are dying. So again, the retaliation is amounting to punishment, and this is clearly not going to achieve the objective of ending Hamas. Comparing this to WWII is just so stupid. Hamas = Germany??? Come on man.

This is by design. Hamas positions themselves in civilian areas in an effort to shield themselves and make Israel look bad when they retaliate, this has been known for over a decade and a half. Since you are an expert military strategist, maybe you can tell them the super secret way of only killing Hamas with 0 civilians.

And yes, the parallels between Hamas and nazi Germany are very significant - both feel that they are justified in their extermination of the Jews. Keep shilling for your favorite genocidal terrorist group, I'm sure you'll end up on the "right side of history" as usual.

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Let it Rupp wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

They are supposed to be at war with Hamas, but their actions have been aimed at non-combatants and the outcome is that its mostly Palestinian civilians are dying. So again, the retaliation is amounting to punishment, and this is clearly not going to achieve the objective of ending Hamas. Comparing this to WWII is just so stupid. Hamas = Germany??? Come on man.

This is by design. Hamas positions themselves in civilian areas in an effort to shield themselves and make Israel look bad when they retaliate, this has been known for over a decade and a half. Since you are an expert military strategist, maybe you can tell them the super secret way of only killing Hamas with 0 civilians.

And yes, the parallels between Hamas and nazi Germany are very significant - both feel that they are justified in their extermination of the Jews. Keep shilling for your favorite genocidal terrorist group, I'm sure you'll end up on the "right side of history" as usual.

Link:stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_...

Trollminator wrote:

Let it Rupp wrote:

This is by design. Hamas positions themselves in civilian areas in an effort to shield themselves and make Israel look bad when they retaliate, this has been known for over a decade and a half. Since you are an expert military strategist, maybe you can tell them the super secret way of only killing Hamas with 0 civilians.

And yes, the parallels between Hamas and nazi Germany are very significant - both feel that they are justified in their extermination of the Jews. Keep shilling for your favorite genocidal terrorist group, I'm sure you'll end up on the "right side of history" as usual.

Link:stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_...

I'll tell you this much - the right side of history is not one that is engaged in mass killings of civilians when apparently they are at war with an ideology. Hamas is on the wrong side of history but so is Bibi's team in these actions. Neither of them win regardless. You also do not seem to tolerate any criticism of Israeli action. TheDolt already confessed he supports the full extermination of Palestinians if that's what it takes to root out Hamas. What's your threshold for civilian deaths? I served 2 ME tours brother - I will call out unnecessary and ineffective brutality when I see it.

Not once have I said civilian lives can't be lost in the process. I have said that the IDF has been very reckless in their mass bombings and have done very little to minimize the loss of civilian life. I have said that the death and destruction they are inflicting on the Palestinians will do very little to dismantle Hamas, and will embolden the ideology. So for starters, this mass bombing campaign is a terrible idea. If the goal is to do away with Hamas, their ideology needs to be tackled, not bolstered. Right now the IDF is proving Hamas' point to the brainwashed Palestinians.

Israel should have taken a measured pause before deciding to commit war crimes which in this case actually strengthen the enemy. Good leaders take measured and effective responses. Isn't the Mossad top notch in finding and assassinating targets? Give them the green light to hunt down and kill as many Hamas militants as possible. Perhaps it would have also be a good idea to not allow Qatari money to flow into Gaza - just a thought. Some tactical surgical strikes to dismantle key Hamas operations? Sure. Daily bombings that mostly kill civilians, now in the thousands? No. Deliberately making the Palestinian people suffer even more as punishment for Hamas' terror attack? No. Israel should have paused to maximize international support before making a move, but Bibi rushed with this reckless military campaign and fkd that all up for Israel. Oh, and review security and intel approaches... yeah that might be a good idea too.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

I'll tell you this much - the right side of history is not one that is engaged in mass killings of civilians when apparently they are at war with an ideology. Hamas is on the wrong side of history but so is Bibi's team in these actions. Neither of them win regardless. You also do not seem to tolerate any criticism of Israeli action. TheDolt already confessed he supports the full extermination of Palestinians if that's what it takes to root out Hamas. What's your threshold for civilian deaths? I served 2 ME tours brother - I will call out unnecessary and ineffective brutality when I see it.

Not once have I said civilian lives can't be lost in the process. I have said that the IDF has been very reckless in their mass bombings and have done very little to minimize the loss of civilian life. I have said that the death and destruction they are inflicting on the Palestinians will do very little to dismantle Hamas, and will embolden the ideology. So for starters, this mass bombing campaign is a terrible idea. If the goal is to do away with Hamas, their ideology needs to be tackled, not bolstered. Right now the IDF is proving Hamas' point to the brainwashed Palestinians.

Israel should have taken a measured pause before deciding to commit war crimes which in this case actually strengthen the enemy. Good leaders take measured and effective responses. Isn't the Mossad top notch in finding and assassinating targets? Give them the green light to hunt down and kill as many Hamas militants as possible. Perhaps it would have also be a good idea to not allow Qatari money to flow into Gaza - just a thought. Some tactical surgical strikes to dismantle key Hamas operations? Sure. Daily bombings that mostly kill civilians, now in the thousands? No. Deliberately making the Palestinian people suffer even more as punishment for Hamas' terror attack? No. Israel should have paused to maximize international support before making a move, but Bibi rushed with this reckless military campaign and fkd that all up for Israel. Oh, and review security and intel approaches... yeah that might be a good idea too.

There's no such thing as a "surgical strike" you utter muppet.

You have absolutely no idea wtf you're talking about.

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