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Israel has destroyed and/or bombed every university in Gaza and bombed multiple hospitals, now including the pediatric oncology ward of Al-Rantisi. Meanwhile, a "senior security source" in the Israeli govt has claimed 20,000 – or 1% of Gaza's entire population – has been killed.
But it's not enough for Israeli civil society: In the past week, 100 Israeli doctors, including pediatricians, have signed a letter urging more attacks on hospitals, while 50 Israeli rabbis have issued a letter giving halakhic approval to bomb medical facilities in Gaza. "the residents of Gaza" have "brought their annihilation upon themselves," the Israeli doctors proclaim.211 -
Newname wrote:
Israel has destroyed and/or bombed every university in Gaza and bombed multiple hospitals, now including the pediatric oncology ward of Al-Rantisi. Meanwhile, a "senior security source" in the Israeli govt has claimed 20,000 – or 1% of Gaza's entire population – has been killed.
But it's not enough for Israeli civil society: In the past week, 100 Israeli doctors, including pediatricians, have signed a letter urging more attacks on hospitals, while 50 Israeli rabbis have issued a letter giving halakhic approval to bomb medical facilities in Gaza. "the residents of Gaza" have "brought their annihilation upon themselves," the Israeli doctors proclaim.Hamas is in every school and hospital in Gaza. That's how they operate.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Newname wrote:
Israel has destroyed and/or bombed every university in Gaza and bombed multiple hospitals, now including the pediatric oncology ward of Al-Rantisi. Meanwhile, a "senior security source" in the Israeli govt has claimed 20,000 – or 1% of Gaza's entire population – has been killed.
But it's not enough for Israeli civil society: In the past week, 100 Israeli doctors, including pediatricians, have signed a letter urging more attacks on hospitals, while 50 Israeli rabbis have issued a letter giving halakhic approval to bomb medical facilities in Gaza. "the residents of Gaza" have "brought their annihilation upon themselves," the Israeli doctors proclaim.Hamas is in every school and hospital in Gaza. That's how they operate.
1. Evidence of this claim?
2. Is that a legit excuse for bombing all those places. Hundreds of people in the hospital but its okay we killed them all because Hamas is there?
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Newname wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Hamas is in every school and hospital in Gaza. That's how they operate.
1. Evidence of this claim?
2. Is that a legit excuse for bombing all those places. Hundreds of people in the hospital but its okay we killed them all because Hamas is there?
Why would Hamas be in every schools and hospital? It's not like that stops Israel from bombing all of them.
Israel's propaganda makes no sense. Plus is never, ever backed by evidence
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Newname wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Hamas is in every school and hospital in Gaza. That's how they operate.
1. Evidence of this claim?
2. Is that a legit excuse for bombing all those places. Hundreds of people in the hospital but its okay we killed them all because Hamas is there?
There's only evidence of 1 hospital being "bombed" and it was proven that the Palestinians bombed it themselves.
There's lot of evidence Hamas is in the hospitals and schools. For some reason you will dismiss anything Israel reports yet believe 100% of what a terrorist group says about what's happening.
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Newname wrote:
Newname wrote:
1. Evidence of this claim?
2. Is that a legit excuse for bombing all those places. Hundreds of people in the hospital but its okay we killed them all because Hamas is there?
Why would Hamas be in every schools and hospital? It's not like that stops Israel from bombing all of them.
Israel's propaganda makes no sense. Plus is never, ever backed by evidence
"Testimony from previous rounds of fighting in Gaza has indicated that Hamas conducts military activity from within hospitals, mosques, churches and schools, or from areas adjacent to them. This, in order to prevent Hamas' leaders, operatives and weapons from being targeted by Israel, and sometimes also in order to deliberately provoke Israel into attacking these sites."
It's a win win. You either get left alone or you get great PR while you're rotting in hell.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Newname wrote:
1. Evidence of this claim?
2. Is that a legit excuse for bombing all those places. Hundreds of people in the hospital but its okay we killed them all because Hamas is there?
There's only evidence of 1 hospital being "bombed" and it was proven that the Palestinians bombed it themselves.
There's lot of evidence Hamas is in the hospitals and schools. For some reason you will dismiss anything Israel reports yet believe 100% of what a terrorist group says about what's happening.
You are arguing only one hospital was bombed?
And think it was proved Israel did not do it?
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Newname wrote:
Why would Hamas be in every schools and hospital? It's not like that stops Israel from bombing all of them.
Israel's propaganda makes no sense. Plus is never, ever backed by evidence
"Testimony from previous rounds of fighting in Gaza has indicated that Hamas conducts military activity from within hospitals, mosques, churches and schools, or from areas adjacent to them. This, in order to prevent Hamas' leaders, operatives and weapons from being targeted by Israel, and sometimes also in order to deliberately provoke Israel into attacking these sites."
It's a win win. You either get left alone or you get great PR while you're rotting in hell.
in order to prevent Hamas' leaders, operatives and weapons from being targeted by Israel, and sometimes also in order to deliberately provoke Israel into attacking these sites."
So they inbed in order to prevent being targeted but also to provoke Israel into targeting?
WTF?
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in order to prevent Hamas' leaders, operatives and weapons from being targeted by Israel, and sometimes also in order to deliberately provoke Israel into attacking these sites."
Classic doubletalk.
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Newname wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
There's only evidence of 1 hospital being "bombed" and it was proven that the Palestinians bombed it themselves.
There's lot of evidence Hamas is in the hospitals and schools. For some reason you will dismiss anything Israel reports yet believe 100% of what a terrorist group says about what's happening.
You are arguing only one hospital was bombed?
And think it was proved Israel did not do it?
The Al Ahli Arab hospital was hit by a terrorist rocket. There is no crater. There is no damage to the hospital. It is bat sh*t crazy to pretend that hundreds of people were killed.
It's all on video.
Having been at scenes where dozens of people were killed I can promise you this would be the first explosion in history that killed hundreds of people without a single drop of blood hitting the pavement.
You are ingesting pure terrorist propaganda.
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Newname wrote:
Newname wrote:
1. Evidence of this claim?
2. Is that a legit excuse for bombing all those places. Hundreds of people in the hospital but its okay we killed them all because Hamas is there?
Why would Hamas be in every schools and hospital? It's not like that stops Israel from bombing all of them.
Israel's propaganda makes no sense. Plus is never, ever backed by evidence
They literally want Israel to attack schools and hospitals because it's great PR for the sort of people that support them.
And there is plenty of evidence.
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Newname wrote:
in order to prevent Hamas' leaders, operatives and weapons from being targeted by Israel, and sometimes also in order to deliberately provoke Israel into attacking these sites."
Classic doubletalk.
So they do it to prevent attacks but also to provoke attacks!
Some logic there.
And they are justified in bombing hospitals....but it's lie they bombed that one hospital.
And no evidence they have bombed any hospitals -- despite all the evidence and what the US says.
These people are way out there beyond any reality
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Newname wrote:
Newname wrote:
in order to prevent Hamas' leaders, operatives and weapons from being targeted by Israel, and sometimes also in order to deliberately provoke Israel into attacking these sites."
Classic doubletalk.
So they do it to prevent attacks but also to provoke attacks!
Some logic there.
And they are justified in bombing hospitals....but it's lie they bombed that one hospital.
And no evidence they have bombed any hospitals -- despite all the evidence and what the US says.
These people are way out there beyond any reality
I only know of 1 bombing that made international news and it was 100% fake news.
You want it to be true because you hate Jews so no amount of evidence will convince you.
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Not in our name.
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Newname wrote:
Israel has destroyed and/or bombed every university in Gaza and bombed multiple hospitals, now including the pediatric oncology ward of Al-Rantisi. Meanwhile, a "senior security source" in the Israeli govt has claimed 20,000 – or 1% of Gaza's entire population – has been killed.
But it's not enough for Israeli civil society: In the past week, 100 Israeli doctors, including pediatricians, have signed a letter urging more attacks on hospitals, while 50 Israeli rabbis have issued a letter giving halakhic approval to bomb medical facilities in Gaza. "the residents of Gaza" have "brought their annihilation upon themselves," the Israeli doctors proclaim.The claims you are posting are greatly exaggerated. Hamas doesn't even claim half that many have been killed, and it's likely they exaggerate their numbers to gin up sympathy from the useful idiots like yourself. On the other hand, over 300,000 Muslims have been killed in the Saudi-Houthi conflict. Or we could talk about Syria or any of the other uncivilized Muslim hellholes where they are always killing each other. Yet you don't say a peep about those. It's kind of like how black on black crime is ignored but every instance of a police officer killing a black person is sensationalized.
Israel warns civilians to leave before attacking the cowardly terrorists hiding behind human shields. Hamas targets civilians and gleefully carries out torture against the most innocent of victims. There is no moral equivalence. The only reason you pretend to be outraged is because of racism. Same reason all the protestors are now coming out against Israel but remain quiet as Muslims destroy each other on a daily basis, as they have done for centuries.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Newname wrote:
So they do it to prevent attacks but also to provoke attacks!
Some logic there.
And they are justified in bombing hospitals....but it's lie they bombed that one hospital.
And no evidence they have bombed any hospitals -- despite all the evidence and what the US says.
These people are way out there beyond any reality
I only know of 1 bombing that made international news and it was 100% fake news.
You want it to be true because you hate Jews so no amount of evidence will convince you.
I took in the arguments for Israel's claim that it was not responsible for that attack and I believed it. If you want anyone to take you seriously, you should stop calling anyone who doesn't agree with you a Jew-hater. It makes you look just as extreme as some of the people you don't mind getting bombed. Maybe let us know when your position is no longer that all Palestinians should be wiped away if that's what it takes to end Hamas. Keep in mind that at one time millions of Germans believed in this solution for the Jews. Be better.
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BigTex wrote:
Newname wrote:
Israel has destroyed and/or bombed every university in Gaza and bombed multiple hospitals, now including the pediatric oncology ward of Al-Rantisi. Meanwhile, a "senior security source" in the Israeli govt has claimed 20,000 – or 1% of Gaza's entire population – has been killed.
But it's not enough for Israeli civil society: In the past week, 100 Israeli doctors, including pediatricians, have signed a letter urging more attacks on hospitals, while 50 Israeli rabbis have issued a letter giving halakhic approval to bomb medical facilities in Gaza. "the residents of Gaza" have "brought their annihilation upon themselves," the Israeli doctors proclaim.The claims you are posting are greatly exaggerated. Hamas doesn't even claim half that many have been killed, and it's likely they exaggerate their numbers to gin up sympathy from the useful idiots like yourself. On the other hand, over 300,000 Muslims have been killed in the Saudi-Houthi conflict. Or we could talk about Syria or any of the other uncivilized Muslim hellholes where they are always killing each other. Yet you don't say a peep about those. It's kind of like how black on black crime is ignored but every instance of a police officer killing a black person is sensationalized.
Israel warns civilians to leave before attacking the cowardly terrorists hiding behind human shields. Hamas targets civilians and gleefully carries out torture against the most innocent of victims. There is no moral equivalence. The only reason you pretend to be outraged is because of racism. Same reason all the protestors are now coming out against Israel but remain quiet as Muslims destroy each other on a daily basis, as they have done for centuries.
I could say the same for right wingers getting all excited about war in the region, when they have been the source of much of the antisemitism in the US. That is just identity politics and taking the other side of the argument.
The problem with your justifications is that you end up holding Israel to a very low standard. If they have carte blanche to wipe away as many Palestinians as it takes to get rid of all Hamas, that is a straight up genocidal approach. I keep asking - for a democracy that supposedly seeks to uphold international law - what is the acceptable threshold for civilian loss of life when supposedly Israel is at war with Hamas and not Palestinians? Is it 10k people, 50k, 100k? Or give me a ratio of dead civilians to dead Hamas fighters that you would be fine with - is 5:1, 10:1, 50:1, 100:1?
I hold democracies to a better standard than terrorist organizations, hence my criticism of Israel's current approach.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Newname wrote:
Why would Hamas be in every schools and hospital? It's not like that stops Israel from bombing all of them.
Israel's propaganda makes no sense. Plus is never, ever backed by evidence
"Testimony from previous rounds of fighting in Gaza has indicated that Hamas conducts military activity from within hospitals, mosques, churches and schools, or from areas adjacent to them. This, in order to prevent Hamas' leaders, operatives and weapons from being targeted by Israel, and sometimes also in order to deliberately provoke Israel into attacking these sites."
It's a win win. You either get left alone or you get great PR while you're rotting in hell.
This is not new info.. this is a terrorist organization after all so not sure if you expect something different. What's your point?
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Trollminator wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
"Testimony from previous rounds of fighting in Gaza has indicated that Hamas conducts military activity from within hospitals, mosques, churches and schools, or from areas adjacent to them. This, in order to prevent Hamas' leaders, operatives and weapons from being targeted by Israel, and sometimes also in order to deliberately provoke Israel into attacking these sites."
It's a win win. You either get left alone or you get great PR while you're rotting in hell.
This is not new info.. this is a terrorist organization after all so not sure if you expect something different. What's your point?
If you throw a child in front of a moving train, who is responsible for it's death?
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